I plan on trying out for SWCC but there was a big misunderstanding with my asvab scores. I actually did not make the required scores so they stopped me from training with the other DEPers who where wanting to try out for specops. I lacked skill in comprehension and math. i am a DEPer right now. i ship out march 25th. everyday is a training for me until the day i leave. of corse i take off sundays, but to the question.. i was wondering when i get to boot camp will i be asked if would like to be in the specops division or since my scores did not quite meet the requirements will i be placed in the division that i am required to be in, which would be with airman... im assuming. my job is airman PACT Anyone wanting to reply can reply to my email. please, and thank you. email@example.com
Can someone tell me if I am able to get into 800 division then go to corpsman "A" school then BUD/S prep then to BUD/S? Main goal is to arrive at BUD/S indoc as a Corpsman and hopefully become a SEAL Medic/Corpsman. I know that since the SEALs have their own rate now, there is no Corpsman SEALs anymore, but you get the idea
Anyone want to explain why they seemed to be swimming freestyle? I thought CSS would be drilled in as quickly as possible.
@Frosty Not all SO swim CSS. Diver and Rescue both test with Freestyle. If you watch closely you can see a number of the guys swimming CSS as well.
@ Brandon I have a question about jump school in the SEALs pipeline. Okay I know the Navy SEALs have had their own jump school for awhile. My best friend from my high school days as well as my Ranger buddy was with the Infantry Center at Ft. Benning were he worked for Col. Brown. I don't remember the generals name. But anyway he was the NCO that inspected the SEALs jump school back in 2004-2005 and exchanged words with the command there due to the school not meeting the POI. The school at the time was four days of training and two jumps and graduation on the fifth day. Any way when he explained to the OIC that his recommendation would be to deny certification to the school he was put on the hot seat. Certification was denied by the genera at that time. I can send you more about that in an email. Are the SEALs now using their own jump school now instead of send guys to Ft. Benning? Do you have much information on the school if they are indeed using it rather than Ft. Benning?
@OldRGR Yes, but in all fairness it was half ass before and now it's a lot more squared away. The Army is losing some funding by the Navy not sending guys to their school and I'm sure this played into things a bit also.
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@JMattHicksBrother those bbq stands just oustide 1604 made it all worth it!
@JMattHicksI can't type. meh.
@Evan95 @Tango9 @JMattHicks I've always managed to land in the middle of military towns. But not many navy folks here in the middle of the country. Honestly last 1 I saw was a CPO at Safeway, most likely Navy space.
She'd forgotten her wallet so I picked up her milk and the twizzlers for her little squid in training ;)
@Tango9 @JMattHicks I think the first time I saw someone from the navy was last year's veteran's day parade over on Pat Booker. All I could do was stare and figure out what it was. Also occasionally I'll see one on Randolph and that sends me into a frenzy trying to find where they park their boats.
Those canidates that were interviewed sounded like they got caught with their pants down in regards to expectations of RTC and the 800 Division
"I signed up to be a SEAL aaaaaaannnnnddddd........I had to learn how to be a sailor first"
Man, would I love to become a SEAL. I know I could make it. Problem is I'm 42. Wish I had been more aware of the teams earlier in life.
@BrandonWebb @Sig and KAC Waiting for the time block to open up for Shipley's "Taste of BUD/S". That looks like such a thrill... A painful, miserable, ass-kicker of a thrill. :-)
Do you know if they have anything like this for women to attend?
@Sig and KAC My friend, my body is 44, my brain is 18. As I knock out the push ups, flutter kicks and pull ups I can feel the joints getting old. They creak, snap, and really make a lot of bad noises. If I had it to do all over again I'd have tried our for SEAL/PJ/Underwater Sniper.... but alas, age has caught me.
I can relate as well Brother...
When joining the Army, I was (already) old - however - even when those (noises) were being heard during PT, during basic, it was a matter of not letting those younger lads get the best of me...
... but that didn't matter...
Once assigned to my Unit at Campbell, our squad (weapons) and 2nd Plt, managed to connect, and gather some intel in learning (at least) the - "small basics" - of the guys from SF and from other groups such as SEALS, Legion, SAS and by scrounging all we could from reading sources like magazines, asking historians, and actually inquiring - "those guys" - in beards - that frequented the track on PT mornings... (and this was in the 80's)
We asked the questions, at times we didn't get the answers, so we continued to learn on our own and when we did get the answers, we changed our habits, did things right, taking it very seriously and it all started to come together!
It also helped that we had several Sgts that just completed Ranger School and also trained us in a similar manner...
Because of them - we felt better, worked stronger as a TEAM over all, had increased confidence in all we did, and it started to show in PT scores and whatnot.
It carried over personally as well, as we covered each others six always, we were a tight unit, which excelled in the back forty. - Hell - because of this new found confidence, we even trained on our own, trained harder and even wanted to go (and remain) in the field and back forty, just to train more!
We knew we were not SF/160th SOAR/Nightstalkers (but) we felt we could - "follow in our high-speed brothers boots" - because they were our inspiration, our motivators.
If I joined the army sooner, like right after high school - maybe - but (at the time) I wasn't ready, nor - 'mature enough' - (in my mind) to join up, so I worked first, for several years before joining up.If I had the opportunity to do it over, I would do it all over again - in heart beat (no question) - and trust me I would do it sooner...
Most of us have that one moment, or person, usually an NCO who connected and inspired. Those things have a habit of staying with us dont they?
@ArcticWarrior Again ~ I can relate, must be something about those years, I joined up on my day of days... my B-Day and requested to be shipped out quickly...I also joined up when the recruiters offices were (always) side by side in the strip-malls... I too heard it all... but that wasn't the issue with me, what did it for me was the (My Home-town advert) - remember that one? - that really got me when I saw it...Many gave me inspiration, drive, courage and I appreciate them all... but it was a particular NCO - who had a beard - who stated on a cold PT morning..."Its not the brawn, its how much (heart) you have to sustain oneself, to never giving up - (you know) - its a hidden drive, the willingness, to go for what noone else wants or can't have because they think its not possible - Anything and everything is possible, you (just) have to knock everything down along the way and take names along the fucking way!"
That always (stuck) in my mind when I heard that and never left me...
I joined in January during my Jr year of College. Just got fed up with the people I was surrounded by. I went to the Recruiter, it was a joint AF/Army office. The AF guys werent in, but the Army guy was, so he asked he I could just give him a few minutes. I all heard was bonus $$$ Infantry, Airborne, volunteering for this and that, Im sure I heard it in the backround but I heard $$$ most of all.
Having strong NCOs is paramount, especially if you got Srs who came from the 75th. Always about Regimental standards and slackers never lasted with them.
As far as Group I agree. Those guys were always willing to help us out and give us pointers, whether on post or in the field. 18Es and 18Ds always had the best tricks and didnt care what rank you had if you were STRAC they were down with helping and always inspired the younger guys. As an NCO you could point out how good the Green Beenies were and for guys to aspire to that.
Treated better by Group then Mother Army, we werent SF but they always treated us great.
@Tango9 I hear ya. I tell everyone the best way to stay young is to not get old. Haven't figured out how yet. Still, I keep telling my wife I'm going to try for an age waiver to get into BUD/S :)
@ArcticWarrior Hey bro, about half way thru boot camp, like 4 weeks, we got one nite to ourselves, our beverage of choice was PBR!! Got a case and sat outside the barracks, the old wooden WWII ones built on stilts. I have never drank Pabst since then!! We were all scared shitless and waiting for the hammer to drop, it did at 4 a.m. for a 5 mile run! 6
We didnt have morale patches, we used a sharpie
@ArcticWarrior I can relate, my name tapes were White! lol, with black lettering. And we had the khaki uniform, with long sleeved shirts and we tucked the tie into the shirt two buttons down, lol. Extra, Extra Heavy starch made the uni stand up on it's own! Just don't sit down or everything wrinkled, lol 6
ODS...lol.. I was a green FNG, I still have a chocolate chip in my closet with the mismatched OD name tapes. OEF seems like ages ago so ODS seems like an eternity.
In the movie Jarhead, Jamie Foxx at the end is now the Gunny leading the young pups in Fallujah, that was a nice progression of time. I called it a game in the Pathfinder Co., everyone was "older" you know 28 yrs old and up,Time caught up, its a young mans game in the ABN INF
@ArcticWarrior LOL, don't worry, it won't be too long before the 'kids' will say, "what War?" But ODS, Still seems recent to me and I'm an old fart, lol. 6
I knew it was time when the "kids" asked about the "Olden Days" of ODS and how we existed with A2s.
@Sig and KAC I used to think that because I was an 'athlete' old age would only mean getting Older, sorry to say, not so. Body parts break, i.e. new titanium hip, knee, etc. lol. I am a vegan, still have inherited high b.p.! Just take it one day at a time and hope nothing else gives out, lol. R6
@Tango9 Still, you served. Much respect.
@Sig and KAC when I signed the contract I didn't know any better, and I was dumber than a bag of hammers. I was fresh meat for the first rectuiter that got to me and he happened to be an AF MSgt. It was just luck (bad luck) and I ended up signing on to be a 732x0. Personnel. HUGE mistake. 6 year contract because it gave me E-3 when I got out of basic but wow... what a shitty job.
weighing in fat people, handing out leave numbers, filing paperwork? Holy suckville. The 1 break I got was the 5 years I spent pushing troops, but even that ended and I was stuck back in an office when it was done. Worst job. ever.