Assange interviewed in The Guardian UK 2010:
When I try to question him about the morality of what he's done, if he worries about unleashing something that he can't control, that no one can control, he tells me the story of the Kenyan 2007 elections when a WikiLeak document "swung the election".
The leak exposed massive corruption by Daniel Arap Moi, and the Kenyan people sat up and took notice. In the ensuing elections, in which corruption became a major issue, violence swept the country. "1,300 people were eventually killed, and 350,000 were displaced. That was a result of our leak," says Assange. It's a chilling statistic, but then he states: "On the other hand, the Kenyan people had a right to that information and 40,000 children a year die of malaria in Kenya. And many more die of money being pulled out of Kenya, and as a result of the Kenyan shilling being debased."
1300 dead because of Wikileaks, but whatever, those people drop like flies anyway.
@LauraWalkerKC Excellent point Laura... so what if of those 1300 people, some were actually capable of effecting change? Great job Julian! Way to keep it real! Prick...
@LauraWalkerKC His obsession with the "truth" strangely reminds me of the tree of knowledge. While we feel entitled to the truth, sometimes it is more than society as a whole can handle.
Link to the above article
Body doubles take time, plastic surgery, intense training. If this was "true". It was pre-meditated. Does he have the resources and backing to do this?
I am going to be honest, the whole Assange in London situation has been far too entertaining. Pizza deliveries from th3j35t3r, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office posting about Balcony Accidents this year during his speech, his parallels to a certain rock band imprisoned in Russia, and the fact that he has been granted asylum in Ecuador. Ecuador being a country fond of silencing journalists.
"Then there's Alexander Barankov, the anti-corruption blogger and former Belarusian security official who has been in Ecuador for three years. After Belarus dictator Alexander Lukashenko made a trade visit to Quito earlier this summer, Ecuadorian authorities arrested Mr. Barankov. He is now behind bars and might be extradited to Belarus, where Time reports that he could be executed." -Wall Street Journal, Anne Jolis.
@TylerMFarley Nice post dude, that is completely comical! Frankly, I don't think Assange truly planned on going to Ecuador. I think that was trying (emphasis on trying) to play an elaborate shell game while he figured his ultimate destination. Try Mongolian Julian, the broadband is weak but maybe just maybe...
Nice find, Jack. I knew that you know how to shine a spotlight ( referencing your review of 'The Command') but did not know you were a bus driver too! Good on ya!
Not sure why he went craigslist looking for doubles. Could've just had his buddy Bill Maher fly to London and walk by the embassy a few times.
@BrandonTWebb How do they know the guy they have "Eyes On" now isn't a double? Insert conspiracy theory here. :)
Britain is having none of it w/ Assange. No safe passage. My dreams of a black hood & van are alive, alive!
Last night while he was holed up at the embassy and journalists were broadcasting, the patriot hacker th3j35t3r sent Assange a pizza at the embassy - traditional hacker prank when you know where an adversary lives. It was pretty funny, considering Jester downed Wikileaks in 2010 when they released the US. cables, and Assange & Anonymous work together.
See clip here http://bambuser.com/v/2905136 - skip to 6:00 minute mark.
Heh. I'm hoping for a black hood & a van, personally, but the pizza was a good laugh :)
@LauraWalkerKC That's freaking awesome. I already think pretty highly of J35t3R, but that bumps him up a couple spots. haha
@LauraWalkerKC I don't really see the point in going after Assange. There is no evidence he had anything to do with getting Manning to leak the material and basically just hosts it. He is no friend of the US but that isn't enough reason to DDoS the site. Manning committed a crime by leaking the material but once it becomes public I don't see anything remotely patriotic about attempting to censor it.
@MattFanning @LauraWalkerKC Manning supplied the info. but Assange not only hosted it, but, decided to release it without redacting any of the names included in that information. It was HIS decision. So he is responsible, and he must be brought to face justice with Manning. Its like Assange was Mannings boss... he's culpable.
@Old PH2 @FLNavyVet @BemetOr3 @MattFanning I still think it's a damn shame we squandered the opportunity to support the Arab Spring action in Iran. You & your wife know better than most of us here just how much control they have over the population. I love to taunt Iran in general, but underestimating that grip is a mistake.
@FLNavyVet @BemetOr3 @MattFanning It reminds me of that stupid #OpIran that Anonymous did a few years ago. They were crusading along, messaging back and forth with Iranian dissidents and in the process of their zeal they exposed those guys to the regime controlled internet intelligence and got a bunch of them killed.
The far left idea that national security information is free game is dangerous and deadly, and the guys on the other side of the planet don't have the protections we have at home.
Trying not to rant,but it's hard ., . .
@MattFanning Classified information on the internet is illegal. Regardless of who is hosting it. The information belongs the United States government under Title Code. You are accessory every time you re-post, host, or read. It doesn't matter that you "think" it should be released. It's like a thief saying the jewels in a safe wanted to be free as justification for stealilng. You cannot determine the second and third order effects of the release and thus, Julian Assange at a minimum is an accessory. However, IMHO, he is complicit. Feel free to read his thesis on the nature of information and secrecy. It's narcissistic and circular logic. My two cents.
@Coriolanus That just goes to highlight the insanity of Top Secret America. Information is very different than tangible items like jewelry.
@Coriolanus @MattFanning When we receive our TS clearances we are read into the full responsibilities of access. As a Photographer our Rate training manuals very clearly spelled out what was and was not permitted. The imagery you photographed may end up with a classification that you can no longer access. Sounds weird but think on it a minute.
@Coriolanus Good post.
@MattFanning Yes, but look at the whole picture here. If there was no market for the information, there would be little interest in the risk in leaking it. Having a ready buyer for it allowed the scrotum-less dirt bag an opportunity to put people at risk so he could make a fast buck. While there is always a market for confidential info, it's usually to a foreign gov't. Selling to a 'company' may make seem less bad, it's still bad.
@FLNavyVet @MattFanning I have a serious problem with stolen U.S. Intel being posted in public. The DoS of the site was a response to that - and one I agree with. It didn't cure the problem, but it sent a message. A cyber throat punch, if you will.
There are further details to Assange's activities w/ that cable dump and other postings of stolen goods. If we get our hands on him, and I believe we will, the notion that Assange is merely putting up public info will be put to rest.
Even if he was going to try this, why post on Craigslist and say "Hey! I'm gonna try some shit!". My guess is the CL ad was spoofed or put up by someone not affiliated. Looks like Mr. Assange has a "Info leak"...
@FLNavyVet Who would be idiot enough to want that Gig? Run around London pretending to look like Julian Assange? They would have to offer me some serious Scooby Snacks for that.
@Old PH2 "Who would be idiot enough to want that Gig? Run around London pretending to look like Julian Assange?"
Maybe an MI5/6 employee?
@FLNavyVet I was just thinking how derailed I am here LOL P0rn, pizza and oh my, I am going to go ahead and drop and push out 30 before Tango9 catches up with this thread!
@LauraWalkerKC So, mod on SOFREP and a authority on p0rn music...awesome! ;-)
@FLNavyVet LOL well the music is definitely an improvement - it retains that 70's sound, but they dropped the cheese factor. Mostly. Wonder if those guys worked with Julee Cruise? Similar sound going - can almost hear her over the top of it, but that's probably the girl friendly soft core version =P
@LauraWalkerKC What? It's not??
Its safe for work. Interesting context to that video though. Great album."What happens if you put three professional musicians in a recording studio and … have them watch porn movies? While you probably begin imagining strange situations, these guys (Peter van Tichelen, Stefan Wellens and Frank Bongers) made it a creative venture. They created a new soundtrack to the 70ties adult movies they were watching - turning off the sound and just letting their instincts come up with vivid musical imaginations. And it worked."
@Old PH2 Bow chicka wow wow LOL
@LauraWalkerKC Took me a while to stop laughing! Here's your Big Sausage Pizza! I think there is a Porn site with a similar title. : o
@Old PH2 Someone with a death wish ;-) I see it made it on the top 15 scariest halloween costume ideas...
@FLNavyVet Their history shows the group is not real good at operational security.