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Home » USASOC » Special Forces Fire Mini-Gun, Military War Dog Goes Ape-Shit

Special Forces Fire Mini-Gun, Military War Dog Goes Ape-Shit

by Jack Murphy · October 3, 2012 · Posted In: USASOC
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I guess I’m one of those lame non-Hollywood type dudes.  When my ODA was offered the mini-gun in Iraq I made it clear that I wasn’t interested.  With the amount of dust and debris you pick up driving around Iraq the maintenance needed on the mini-gun can be overwhelming.  I know, it seemed really cool in Act of Valor…  That’s just me, I have to Keep It Simple because I’m Stupid.  I’ll take the Ma Deuce over the mini-gun anyday.  That said, I can’t deny that I’m impressed whenever I see the guys letting it rip…

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GregAntilla
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Please tell me you guys at least put cotton balls in that dogs ears... they hear shit 10 fucking times louder than we do.

HslVqguy
HslVqguy 5pts

Gotta ask, where did the loadout room go?

 

Sonnys Mom
Sonnys Mom 5pts

 @HslVqguy  top of page, black banner, white lettering...

DesignatedDiver
DesignatedDiver 5pts

That's a poor reason to not use an extremely lethal weapon and I'd be willing to put it up against the M2, Mk19 or the twin-240 any day in a race to cause the most casualties. Not to mention, the mini-gun requires LESS maintenance, regardless of environment then every other vehicle mounted weapon you ever used. All gas goes out with the round and no gas is required in the system of operation, it's electrically operated. My TF was the first one to use it in IZ and myself and another guy were the primary gunners. I loved that thing. If it jammed up (rare), it was a easy change of the feeder/de-linker and you were back to dishing 3K/min of 7.62. You can't beat it. It was a PSYOPS tool also. We used it all over the place and when it barked, people got really scared. 

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

 @DesignatedDiver Let me preface this as being a genuine question: Don't the requisite electronics make field maintenance more difficult, a la the "more moving parts means more potential problems" axiom? I thought that was interesting that the mini was actually less of a "hangar queen" than the gas operated systems. Shows what I know...

DesignatedDiver
DesignatedDiver 5pts

 @HugeFan I had one electrical issue with the system in many months using it. The problem was in the gun control unit where the button that triggered it pretty much welded itself. 

LTmustang
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Thought I was the only old war dog that saw the dog in the clip.  I laughed my ass off.  Keeping the twin 50's clean and operating in the Vietnam weather, channel conditions and daily wear and tear was tough enough...mimi gun, I think not.  I would have to agree with Jack.  

marbito11
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im surprised PETA hasnt tried to sue.

MattFanning
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 @marbito11 I have often wondered that myself, especially with the way the Navy actually trains dolphins to deliver lethal blows to enemy divers.

Sonnys Mom
Sonnys Mom 5pts

 @MattFanning  @marbito11   Brandon's book tells about evading some of those Navy-trained dolphins in dive training block...

JHR
JHR 5pts

 @MattFanning  @marbito11 Theres a moveon changeon whatever that site is called, trying to get signatures to attack the Navy on that one. They have ads blasting the navy. I have an ex-eco gal, she started/owned a very famous environmental organization which they now have a whale show about-she was like REALLY? She is for the Sea life, but against terrorists. When you get so blind to terrorism, that you fight for an animal, thats off the charts extreme. 1/2 these eco people have never spent time, real time, decades, living in wilderness with wildlife, thats what gets me. Hyoocrisy.

HugeFan
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 @MattFanning  @marbito11 Yeah, "Flipper" they ain't but since I spend a LOT of time on ported U.S. Naval vessels as the main component of my job, I am EXTREMELY happy that those undersea rottweilers are out there. You guys ever read "One Perfect Op"? Denny Chalker writes of some funny yet I imagine worrisome experiences that he had with trying to penetrate US Naval facilities with those dolphins and seals on the lurk.

JHR
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 @marbito11 Yeh, before PETA sues ask them to get up close and personal, face to face with that sweet doggie and make sure to ask him if he wants their help; over his handlers-whom he would die for. I think we know which way the dog will go:-)

 

HugeFan
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 @JHR  @marbito11 LOL, no kidding JHR!

JHR
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 @HugeFan  @Old PH2  @CK5150 We re lunatic militia fighters. Laded in Plymouth mid 1600's. There were 7 of us assembled, when a British ship rounded a bend headind round the rock towards Boston, one of my ancestors launched a canon and blew a hole into a british ship. That pissed them off. They deboarded, raided our farm (women and choldren fled to the forests) conficated some pigs and chickens and other supplies, then took back off round the rock. WE held our ground though. They were 60, we were 7. Later, we became army.....militia began...then organized...then became military.

 

CK5150
CK5150 5pts

 @Old PH2  @HugeFan I must have been channeling the Jimmy Buffet album A1A.  i'm a dumbass.  m1911 a1 is the proper model number.  

Old PH2
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 @marbito11  @StormR  @JHR  @HugeFan If you ever doubt that God has a sense of humor, just look at a platypus. : )

marbito11
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 @StormR  @Old PH2  @JHR  @HugeFan

dont get me wrong. i hate people who torture and mistreat animals. however, i strongly believe that god put animals on this earth for our well being. fur makes us war, beef gives us nutrition etc... why would god make steak so delicious if he  didnt want us to eat it?

Old PH2
Old PH2 moderator 5pts

 @HugeFan  @CK5150 Not yet, my guess Is there needs to be some technical super ninja type shit from the Elves before they'll sign off on it.  

Old PH2
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The 1911 I have from my grandad is a Remington too!  I guess they cranked out a shit load of  them.  Mine is mostly grey and rattles like an old beater pick up running down a potholed street!

Old PH2
Old PH2 moderator 5pts

 @HugeFan  @CK5150 Our Conversation was here:

http://sofrep.com/4329/dogs-of-war-part-one/

 

Old PH2
Old PH2 moderator 5pts

 @HugeFan  @CK5150 He actually had a web site but I can't remember it.  I do know he's located near Paris Tx.  Most of our conversation is on a thread that he posted about dogs here on SOFREP.

HugeFan
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 @CK5150  @Old PH2 Goddamn! <said with the same emphasis as Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction, lots of staccato on the God part>

CK5150
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 @HugeFan  @Old PH2 We have a Red standard and when she was about 2 she got out the gate while we were on vacation.  Found her after two weeks.  She'd lived off the water at the golf course near by and judging by the row of rabbits she laid out back at the house a few days after, I know what she ate.  Keep in mind this is serious coyote, bobcat and javelina country.  That being said that fucking dog will eat ANYTHING left unattended to in the kitchen.  

CK5150
CK5150 5pts

 @HugeFan  @Old PH2 Love 1911's.  Really.  

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

 @CK5150  @Old PH2 Yeah, I would have laughed but Poodles are no joke... They are terribly smart and have pointy-ass teeth...

HugeFan
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 @CK5150  @Old PH2 PH, do we have the all-inclusive forum up in the Team Room yet? We need to have a forum thread about these heirlooms and for that matter 1911's. :-)

CK5150
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 @Old PH2  @HugeFan you  can have one of my standard poodles.  Wicked smart.  and ridiculously athletic.  I grew up with Labs but they are hard to have in AZ with the heat.  

CK5150
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 @Old PH2  @HugeFan Both of my grandfathers were in S. Pacific.  My dad's dad was 6th Infantry (Sightseeing 6th!) fought in New Guinea, etc.  My mom's I don't really know as much about except maybe he was a combat engineer, but like I said, not sure.  It's his Remington-Rand 1911 A1A that I have.  Barrel is shot for the most part, but it functions just fine.  I'll have to ask my uncle exactly what my grandfather did.  I have several other 1911's so its not a priority. Good input on the topic. 

HugeFan
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 @Old PH2  @CK5150 Do you get in touch with Mike via Comms Check? I've been interested/curious at finding something like that as well.

HugeFan
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 @Old PH2  @JHR  @CK5150 "Three brothers rounded up and transported from Scotland landed in the Port of Charleston South Carolina in 1760.  Sold into bond by the government to pay for their transport and exile.  After about 3 yrs my direct forefather escaped into the mountains of Appalachia." Indentured servitude was a means for many of our ancestors as it turns out. My Irish-Scotch side came here that way. The Swedish/German half were farmers and Hessians(not sure if they fought for the right side or not, roots get blurry that far back). Meh, I like where I ended up. Think I'll stay... :-)

Old PH2
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 @HugeFan  @CK5150 I'd love to get one of Mike's dog's, just need more green!  He only carries the best.  Nice thing is he has steered me towards looking at some local trainers that are more in my price range.  Shutzhund type dogs can be found about anywhere just gotta look for a reputable guy.

Old PH2
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 @JHR  @CK5150  @HugeFan  My dad's family was still being oppressed by the Brit's around that time! : )

 

Three brothers rounded up and transported from Scotland landed in the Port of Charleston South Carolina in 1760.  Sold into bond by the government to pay for their transport and exile.  After about 3 yrs my direct forefather escaped into the mountains of Appalachia.  We lived there until moving North during the Great Depression.  

HugeFan
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 @Old PH2  @CK5150 Yeah, that's a Simthsonian quality piece there bro. I think the most that I would do to it is clean it once a year(no more range days though) to check function and make sure it does have any rust/corrosion issues.

 

Wow, that's really something that you have there... looks like you might need to talk to Ritland about getting a Malinois to protect it... oh yeah, you're family too! :-)

Old PH2
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 @CK5150  @HugeFan I have my grandad's 1911 too, learned to shoot pistol with it.  Saving it for my Nephews, they'll get it but I stipulate that it stays as is.  He wore that baby on the Beach of Iwo Jima, so it means a great deal to our whole family.

JHR
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 @CK5150  @HugeFan  @Old PH2 that was pearl handled pistol...

 

JHR
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 @CK5150  @HugeFan  @Old PH2 This how we roll. Back in the 16-1700's we had captain Bill in our familiy. He had a pear handled pistol, went to my uncle who kept it in a safe and it was stolen. Then 2 swords w/captains initials went to my Dad. My son, at age 7, became fascinated w/the swords (still is). My Dad said, take them outside, as my son was swinging them wildly in my Dads closet, my dad imagining all his suits cut to threads. We are outside and my son is playing war, stabbing the back lawn with the swords, running at the gtrapefruit tree and cutting off fruit. I say use them, but don't abuse them. Swords were cleaned and put away.

 

CK5150
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 @HugeFan  @Old PH2  Interesting point.  I have my grandfather's WWII 1911, which my uncle also had when he was in Vietnam.  For some stupid reason, my dad gave his back (the nerve).  But I struggle with "modernizing" it some so I can shoot it more.  Their are some guys around here that do incredible work on 1911's-so it can either sit in the safe with the other guns that get used or get prettied up and join the party.  

JHR
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 @StormR  @Old PH2  @HugeFan  @marbito11 well, you better take the cell phone with you for back-up. Operation get Storm and friend out of underneath buffallo! BTW, The polar Bear rug Thor is giving me, its because the Polar Bear has such wild hair. Its not comfortable to touch:-) OUCH.Brissly

Old PH2
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 @StormR  @JHR  @HugeFan  @marbito11 Now that's Friendship!  I'd want to be there under that blanket too.  If you've ever held one you immediately can see the value of them.  Pure practicality!

StormR
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 @Old PH2  @JHR  @HugeFan  @marbito11

 My next door neighbor is an Elder.  When her husband passed, his tribe gave her a full adult Buffalo skin in his honor.  When she got back from the passing ceremony, her son put it on her bed.  I got a call at 6:00 am the next morning from her - she couldn't get out of bed because the Buffalo skin was too heavy.   Fortunately I have a key to her house, so I went over and took it off the bed so she could get out :)    The Buffalo robe is now safely put away someplace.  But she promised that if we get a big snowstorm and power goes out, I can come over and huddle under it too :).

HugeFan
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 @Old PH2  @JHR  @marbito11 I know exactly what you mean. Grampa Ken, before he passed, gave me his knife that his crew bought him when he made Chief. I honed and sharpened the blade. He hadn't in years but that's what Alzheimer's does to people, he would have never deliberately neglected that blade. EVER. A friend mentioned that doing so destroyed it's "value". I know that he thought that he was being helpful but I told him that it didn't any value at all because it's an heirloom and therefore priceless. Period.

JHR
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 @Old PH2  @HugeFan  @marbito11 Dang, I'd love to see that! I have allot of fake furs, a few real ones. Some bear rugs. My friend Thor has a polar bear rug for me, its an heirloom. He hates it. My friend, used to have a polar bear rug in the house, all 7 kids would haul it up to the 3rd story od an old farm house, drape it over the stair rails, then "ride ir down the windimg stair case", the would fight for head position:-) The Germans used furs to stay warm in Porsches (they are freakin COLD to drive-heating systems are bunk). We keep a spare old fake fur in all the old Porsches. They are awesome to keep warm.

 

Old PH2
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 @HugeFan  @JHR  @marbito11 It was my great-great Grandfathers.  And I treasure it beyond it's real value.

HugeFan
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 @Old PH2  @JHR  @marbito11 Very cool stuff...

Old PH2
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 @JHR  @HugeFan  @marbito11 I have an old family heirloom that is a buffalo blanket that is felt backed for use as a lap blanket in the winter for open horse drawn sleds/ wagons.  I swear that skin must weigh 40 lbs.

JHR
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 @HugeFan  @marbito11 Remember that reporter that got bit in the face when getting up close and personal to that dog she covering the story on? Man, its getting chilly here, I am going to throw on a fur:-) BTW, If I want a fur coat, I hunt my own, fair and square on our lands, within game wardens rules-PETA hop on that:-). Otherwise, I buy fake furs from the 1920's and 30's....they are WARM. The depression area knew how to make 'em......

 

cantthinkofausername
cantthinkofausername 5pts

love the mini

Love_n_Respect
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Check out 1:14-1:15...is the driver holding his spitter? If so, that is amazing. Maneuvering a Humvee through a firefight, all while making sure to hold on to he spitter.

Tango9
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 @Love_n_Respect Rifle? check.  Ammo?  check.  Copenhagen?  check.

 

Checklist complete.

HugeFan
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 @Love_n_Respect Ya gotta have priorities... :-)

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