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Home » NSWC » The Truth About The Time Glen Doherty and I Met Mitt Romney

The Truth About The Time Glen Doherty and I Met Mitt Romney

by Brandon Webb · October 10, 2012 · Posted In: NSWC, SOF News
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Myself and managing editor Jack Murphy (former 75th Ranger and Green Beret) work very hard at keeping SOFREP apolitical for a reason. We feel that it helps maintain a balanced viewpoint and keep the site’s integrity with regards to representing the Special Operations community. This is very hard, trust me.

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I’ve had a ton of emails and comments via social media lately about my best friend Glen and his encounter with Mitt Romney.  I was there with him that night we both met Mitt Romney. We were at our friend Dee and Susan’s Christmas party, and I was standing side-by-side during the engagement.  So you’re getting it from the horses mouth.

Two things Glen would want in this situation in my opinion:

1. That both political parties not latch onto his and Ty’s heroic death for personal political gain.

2. To be seen as the great and respectful human being he was. Glen would not want to give the impression that he was bashing Mitt Romney after the two of us encountered him.

Below is the quote I gave to ABC News earlier today. Hopefully this sheds some light on the situation.

“Glen and I were both celebrating the holidays at our friends’ place and after grabbing a cold beer, we both bumped into Mitt Romney. We knew Mitt had the house next door… but were still surprised to see him,” said Brandon Webb, a former SEAL teammate of Glen Doherty and managing editor of SOFREP.com. “Mitt and his wife introduced themselves and Glen joked with him about his lack of personal security. Then Glen and I both gave him a hard time when he re-introduced himself to us a second time. Mitt took it well and we all had a good laugh about it. “

“Glen was very respectful about our encounter with Mitt Romney. That was the kind of guy Glen was. He respected everyone regardless of their differences and that’s what made him such a great human being,” he said

Update: Video of Glen’s Sister Kate on CNN



I think Glen would agree with me that you can’t promote diplomacy with a big stick and a huge security footprint. Benghazi was high threat, Glen knew this, we talked about Libya and the threat risk. Glen volunteered for this post, he could have rotated to a less risky posting but he chose to go to Libya, a big reason was to see his friend Ty. This is the stuff heroes are made of, heroes answer the call when it comes. Glen and Ty answered the call to go to Libya, and a second call, in Benghazi, to save fellow American lives.

Any organization can use some improvement including the Department of State however, bad things happen in the world, heroes die, and hindsight is 20-20.

Thanks for all your support. You, the SOFREP readership, are what make this such a great site. Me and the guys appreciate it.

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Glen’s foundation is here and I know his family appreciates all the support we can give right now. The PayPal button should be active very soon. Please share my best friend’s foundation link and this post.

Sincerely,

Brandon

Main photo: Author’s private collection. Glen is front row, third from left. This picture really captured his spirit in my opinion. -BW

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Brandon Webb is a former U.S. Navy SEAL with combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the Middle East. His last tour in the SEAL Teams was as the Course Manager for the US Navy SEAL Sniper program, arguably one of the most difficult sniper courses in the world. He was formerly a contributing editor for Military.com, and currently the Editor-in-Chief of SOFREP.com. Brandon is regularly featured in the media as a subject matter expert on military affairs. An avid writer, his last two books (The Red Circle, & Benghazi: The Definitive Report) both hit the New York Times best seller list, and his writing has been featured in print, and digital media worldwide. You can follow him on Twitter @BrandontWebb

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plainolamerican88
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"You did not become the person you are

 because you wore a uniform, but

wore a uniform because of the person you are."

 

Thank you GOD BLESS, from your comrades in arms.

JohnTwofeathers
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I hope my life, till my dieing day reflects this statement: "Help others, and surround yourself with people that you respect who challenge you and make you a better person."    Sierra Hotel tribute to another unsung hero.    

IronMike76
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Good get-together in Encinitas

EagleII
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R E S P E C T.. rung loud and clear.   Thanks for sharing.  Mr. Doherty's sister,  she's got it in part.. BLAME THE TERRORISTS and those who support them.The quest for an a-political venue is admirable, but as you stated hard to achieve as the MIL and Politics are interwoven and inseparable.

 

ps:  Jack  former 75th Ranger .. I never met a Former ranger, and most certainly never a Green Beret that talked.

( ducking)  I hear Green Beret's were hats that were earned.    Any truth to any of this?Keep up the great work

JHR
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Awesome article. Thank You. Every Year on my Birthday, July 10th, I shall donate to to this Foundation. I hope you party for a week. Blessings, Julia

LauraKinCA
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 @JHR

 BDay buddy! Mine is July 6 :)

JHR
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 @LauraKinCA Many of my friends are crabs:-) Shipley is a Crab as well, I think, July Bday. Maybe there is hope for Team P?

 

CJCJ
CJCJ 5pts

 @BoydCrowder  @JHR 

It definitely toughens you up. Either that, or you just lay down and call it quits. I've also heard it builds character - not sure any of us need that much character building.

 

"Stop by anytime."

 

Thanks man, I'd love to.

BoydCrowder
BoydCrowder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @CJCJ  @JHR Man, you nailed that one. Although I never acknowledged it publicly, when you're the local black belt karate school owern in a tiny town, you get to hear lots of whispers as you walk through the high school football stadium on a friday night: "Grandpa, that's my karate instructor, he can break 5 boards with a sidekick."

 

You can't help but have that stoke your ego although you pretend you didn't hear it. lol Then to go from that kind of recognition, to just wanting to slip by without being noticed by anyone is an ego-buster for sure.

 

Through the whole ordeal I learned that what I thought was level 10 pain, is only about 3. There's lots more above what ya thought was possible. In an odd way, that toughens ya up.

 

Stop by any time.

 

CJCJ
CJCJ 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BoydCrowder  @JHR I'm not sure which is harder, the mental or the physical adjustment. Pain can be a great teacher. My mind sometimes writes checks my body can't cash, but then I was never the sharpest pencil on the desk. Lubbock is a bit out of the way, but if I'm ever headed that way my guess is that I'll need a car wash, a good meal, and something wet to wash it down. If you're available, it'll definitely be on me and we can swap some "Fliar" stories. 

 

(In case you haven't heard the term, "Fliar" is a term of art some use to describe "overly exaggerated" pilot stories.)

 

BoydCrowder
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 @CJCJ  @JHR I had the Red Baron Car Washes in Lubbock and Idalou, Tx. Sold the last 1 a year ago.

 

I didn't always laugh about my leg. When I was a shiny new amputee I was in a confrontation once a week because I thought people were staring. Funny thing is, my right arm was in a cast from hand to mid-bicep back then, and brand new on a prosthetic leg, so my brain knew I couldn't whip myself out of a wet paper bag. But my heart took great offense at the guy mocking the way I limped and my heart still saw me as a 2nd degree black belt. Luckily the 3 guys on 3 separate occassions who mocked my limp, could easily get away from me, and they chose to:-) Lucky for me, not them.

 

Eventually I realized that if I didn't look to see if people were staring, they weren't. Life got a lot easier then.

 

CJCJ
CJCJ 5pts

 @BoydCrowder  @JHR 

"my car wash one day reinstalling the windsock on the roof (Red Baron Car Wash, aviation theme)"

 

Tim, Got a website? Where are you located?

JHR
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 @BoydCrowder  @CJCJ Tim, I let a seed of fear in and it mushroomed. That might have been my problem. I've falled allot and not gotten hurt. I need to strengthen and fall down and laugh about it. I have a horse I know, that could provide me some comic relief. Always, always, get right back on a horse after falling. Otherwise, the fear factor starts.

 

JHR
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 @CJCJ  @BoydCrowder Yeah,  You are so right. I'll wait until the 2nd cutting. When the stack is twice as high:-)

 

JHR
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 @CJCJ  I am enjoying my daily does of CJ humor. Love anything Hermes (God of Mercury/Hermes), their saddles are awesome. Fun Fact, hermes makes clothes and awesome saddles. Porshe once made a tractor, 1.7 hp. (Ferrari made one too-but Porsche in better)

 

ewww, you are getting decked out TM. Going all the way. Nice. Somehow, I see a Christmas Card Photo op here:-)

 

BW's fashion gal would laugh hysterically at me. I once wore Jimmy Choo shoes out to feed the horses just to have a dress up day w/my younger cousins. We went all out, furs, hats, etc. Photo Op Day at the ranch.

 

CJCJ
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 @JHR  @BoydCrowder 

"Man, by the first hay cutting, I'll be out in the field on the highest hay stack"

 

Love the enthusiasm, but as Deion Sanders likes to say, "Slow your roll, player."

Be careful up there.

CJCJ
CJCJ 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @JHR 

"Yep, EVERYONE is looking forward to this. Are you doing the wreath around your head? What to wear for shoes? Boots or those Roman lace up sandels? Decisions, Decisions. Tick-Tock :-)

10 Days to go on films? Nice....Stay Shiny"

 

LOL. Roger on the 10 days. 

 

I'm thinking flight helmet with a wreath painted on it and speed laced flight boots with friction locks. Maybe I can accessorize the boots with the wings of Mercury in keeping with the theme;

 

http://www.goodyear.com/corporate/history/timeline.html

 

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1763/whats-that-flying-foot-in-the-goodyear-logo-all-about

 

Definitely not a fashion expert. Maybe we could call in BW's stylist for a consultation.

 

BoydCrowder
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 @JHR  @CJCJ

 JHR, One real advantage I had over most new amputees is that I was too stupid to be afraid to fall down. lol I taught Ni Gojuryu for 8 years, which use a little Judo, so Judo breakfalls taught me how to fall properly, thus I was able to push my hydraulic knee to the limits, and if I fell I jst giggled at myself and got back up.

 

This is why Ossure/Otto Bock used me in San Antonio to help new prosthetists learn to adjust various knee units. It's difficult to go from 1 knee unit brand/model to another in 5 minutes, 10 times. I guess they figured I know how to fall so I was less liability for them. :-)

JHR
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 @BoydCrowder  @CJCJ Yeah well, it helps when seeing people say it like it is. Being honest about how they overcome and react to the negativity. One of the things I was thinking about, is the hay stack, ladders, climbing. I have a fear of climbing from the unstability of that leg. Hearing about you up on the roof made my day. Man, by the first hay cutting, I'll be out in the field on the highest hay stack.

 

JHR
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 @CJCJ Yep, EVERYONE is looking forward to this. Are you doing the wreath around your head? What to wear for shoes? Boots or those Roman lace up sandels? Decisions, Decisions. Tick-Tock :-)

10 Days to go on films? Nice....Stay Shiny

 

BoydCrowder
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 @JHR  @CJCJ

Yeah, it's funny sometimes how seeing somebody else being able to do something is all the motivation that's needed.

 

I was up on the peak of the steep metal roof of my car wash one day reinstalling the windsock on the roof (Red Baron Car Wash, aviation theme) after a windstorm blew it off. I noticed a Suburban in the parking lot watching me for the longest time. When I got down from the roof I recognized the driver so I walked over to talk to him. He'd just lost his leg above the knee, like me. He said "I was depressed about losing my leg so I figured I'd drive over to Tim's car wash and see what he does on his prosthesis, and I'll be damned if I didn't pull up and see you up on the damn roof - I knew then that it was going to be ok." lol

CJCJ
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 @JHR 

"I think, today, was the first time, hearing your and Tims story, that I went, I will be 100% again. When I shift, I do it on red line at high speeds. Its time I shifted. Thanks TM."

 

There is a camaraderie in the sharing of pain. It is cathartic and therapeutic. You are not alone. I'm here for you and so is everyone else. Anytime. TM

 

<<< * Shit. I'm starting to think I might actually have to wear that thing ;-P * >>>

JHR
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 @CJCJ I hear you. And, its something I am not proud of. I had the same thoughts. It takes allot for me to get that down, this time, I was "there".  At those times, you have to go to that place you describe in order to survive.

 

Yes, I was a total prisoner in my body. I had no control at all. I remember the story about the  POW guy that learned to play golf in his head. To visualize the perfect game. I didn't allow myself that satisfaction. I had to realize I may never do the things I used to do or be that strong again. I allowed myself to think that. And, That is not me.

 

Thats the tunnel part. I think, today, was the first time, hearing your and Tims story, that I went, I will be 100% again. When I shift, I do it on red line at high speeds. Its time I shifted. Thanks TM.

 

CJCJ
CJCJ 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @JHR 

"On your POW statement- Its' hard for me to see this aspect of War....I get my inspiration from athletes, wounded warriors, friends who have made it through hell hole times and other women that are allot smarter and stronger than me."

 

What I mean by the POW analogy is that there was a time in my life when I felt like I was a prisoner in my own body dealing with incredible amounts of pain and contemplating various methods of escape - not all of them pretty. The stories of successfully enduring mental and physical pain, taking your mind elsewhere to a different and saner place (one guy built a house from start to finish in his mind), and achieving and savoring small moral victories by outwitting the enemy (tap code comms) all appealed to and resonated with me. I also appreciate the stories you referenced above and amazing stories like Tim's. Whether you realize is or not, yours is also an amazing and inspirational story.

JHR
JHR 5pts

 @CJCJ At least in the sauna we wouldn't get Splashed Out by your Bro's:-)

 

"(what?" )- I get that- perfectly.

 

On your POW statement- Its' hard for me to see this aspect of War. My uncle was a Linguist at a POW camp in Viet Nam. An interesting aspect, maybe one of the worst mental forms of torture, is like that situation when Japan made Koreans fight for them in WW2. They were basically POW's.  Then they were captured by The Russians; then The Russians mande the Japanese & Koreans POW's  fight pro Russia against the Germans. Then, there were 2 or more (how many) Koreans and Japanese POWS's that were captured-or they deserted after Russia lost-and were made to fight for the Germans against the USA in Normandy. My God, they were POWS for 3 different countries. I think 1 made it out alive. Maybe there is more?

 

I get my inspiration from athletes, wounded warriors, friends who have made it through hell hole times and other women that are allot smarter and stronger than me.

 

CJCJ
CJCJ 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @JHR 

" I've never been a hot tub girl, more a suana gal. But if you dress like THAT, I am "in". BTW,ssshhhhh.... I think Santa might bring you a life guard chair. You deserve it for cracking me up. Hilarious. Thanx."

 

OK, I'll be your sauna lifeguard - or your hot tub lifeguard. I'm rigidly flexible (what?) on the uniform of the day. Glad I could make you laugh. 

CJCJ
CJCJ 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @JHR  @BoydCrowder 

"I gain so much strength from watching others overcome hurdles, then turning them into victory."

 

I do to, and from reading stories like Tim's. The Book of Job is interesting from the standpoint of why bad things happen to good people. Here's the short version; stuff happens. POW stories were the most appealing, inspirational, and relatable for me. 

JHR
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 @CJCJ I've never been a hot tub girl, more a suana gal. But if you dress like THAT, I am "in". BTW,ssshhhhh.... I think Santa might bring you a life guard chair. You deserve it for cracking me up. Hilarious. Thanx.

CJCJ
CJCJ 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BoydCrowder  @JHR 

" Thanks man but I didn't do anything special. People would be how suprised how much abuse the human body and mind can endure when they're fresh out of options. :-)

 

Marcus Luttrell is a perfect example of that."

 

Love the humor you have.

 

But we'll just have to agree to disagree on the special part.

 

ML is a great example to us all - and so are you.

 

I hope to have the honor and privilege to meet you one day. You rock.

 

 

CJCJ
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 @JHR  @BoydCrowder 

" I gain so much strength from watching others overcome hurdles, then turning them into victory....This last trauma was the leg and the eyes. It was the first time I lost mobility. I then truly understand what a physical limit was....I did what you did Boyd, then I caved. I am just uncaving and ready to fight back.... If someone says I cannot do it, I do it. Its the best motivator for me. I break rules, or find ways around them.... I don't do "weak" well. I am outa that one:-)"

 

Julia, I'll say it again, you are an amazing lady.

 

Time to say this too;

 

You are a big time rock star in my book.

BoydCrowder
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 @CJCJ  @JHR Thanks man but I didn't do anything special. People would be how suprised how much abuse the human body and mind can endure when they're fresh out of options. :-)

 

Marcus Luttrell is a perfect example of that.

 

CJCJ
CJCJ 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @JHR 

"I losy my inspiration.This last one took me to the darkest depth. My Dad says I am "lucky" that I've made it this far, as I've done so much and walked away unscathed. Manly just broken bones, stitches, mainly upper body injuries from falls. Allot of cuncussions, getting knocked ot completely. Hearing your story, yes, more another day, for sure. If you can do it, I will too. Thats pretty amazing TM. I am more weak right now, than broken. Luckily, I can garner strength by pulling the boot laces tighter. Its my passion, overcoming. I think I just lost my way, but am coming out of the tunnel."

 

Julia, You are an amazing lady. You WILL do it because you will accept nothing less. Everyone gets a little disoriented form time to time, but you are definitely on your way out of that dark tunnel. You will be fine if you give it some time. Do not underestimate the value of some hot tub time for rehab so long as your wounds are closed up. I'll be happy to be your hot tub lifeguard anytime! Here's an example of how valuable a hot tub lifeguard can be;

 

http://www.clipaday.com/videos/jacuzzi-lifeguard-jim-carrey-will-ferrell-

CJCJ
CJCJ 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BoydCrowder  @JHR 

"Defiance was my friend. It was a valuable tool....Screw that! It took some time (about a year) but I returned to all of those activities and then some. Defiance is what kept me going some days...screw them and their attempt to super-impose their own feelings of inadequacy on me. Screw 'em!

 

When I was discharged I was a little pissed off, but highly motivated. :-)"

 

Dude,

 

---->>> You are a big time fuckin' rock star in my book. (JHR is too, but I'm not ready to tell her that just yet - Sssshhhhhhh!). You are also a big time inspiration to me and everyone who reads your words. Thanks for sharing. 

 

FOXTROT YANKEE !!!

 

Rock On !!!!!!!!

 

JHR
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 @BoydCrowder  @CJCJ Thanx Tim. I did not loose my leg, but came close. My leg kept rejecting the cadavers. Your story only fuels my determination to keep going, get stronger and get back into fight shape. Like you, I am determined. Never let anything define you, but you. Great inspriration.

 

BoydCrowder
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 @JHR  @CJCJ

 I can relate, for 5 years post-wreck I was a "sponsored athlete" by the 4 largest manufacturers of prosthetic components. I'd dress up like a monkey in my karate gi and take photos, which they'd use in their literature. I guess I wasn't supposed to be doing the activities I was doing with my level of injuries and they figured they could use that to inspire/exploit new amputees with that.

 

I was happy to pay it forward because a lot of amps helped me when I was a new amputee, but when my 5 year sponsorship deal was up, I wanted no part of it anymore. I'd seen way too many amputees fall into that trap of letting their injury define them. In fact, I started a bit of controvery in the prosthetic industry when I sent a letter to a popular amputee forum announcing that "I quit" being an amputee, that from that day forward I was just a guy who'd lost his leg, I was no longer an amputee. :-) 

 

Btw, if you're inclined, here is live footage of my accident in 1994. Mine is the 2nd of 2 stories (Tim Adams) in the newscast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPrMHK72XqY

JHR
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 @BoydCrowder  @CJCJ Here is a bit of Sunday Inspiration. The music is not my favorite, But The Act, The Man, The Mission- I guess that Glen would Approve. Its 6 minutes long.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRxaxNG2XoY&feature=youtu.be

 

 

 

JHR
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 @BoydCrowder  @CJCJ I gain so much strength from watching others overcome hurdles, then turning them into victory. I always had upper body injuries, anything below the waist was stiches. This last trauma was the leg and the eyes. It was the first time I lost mobility. I then truly understand what a physical limit was.I lost use of my hands once for a few years and I made do just fine and recovered to 95%, it never slowed me down. But legs and the eyes, that will test you for sure.I was in an upper body cast once for 8 months, a statue of liberty cast-but I still got around.  I did what you did Boyd, then I caved. I am just uncaving and ready to fight back. I had one hurdle to master before I could fight this. I am doing that now. I did start 2 corporations to help others when in bed for a year. My body stopped, but not my brain. Now, what have I done? I'll go back to my life with projects, my full life AND 2 companies?

 

My doc said "don't go up hills", so I started climbing a little. I actually ran into him on the way down Mt. Shasta (I made it about 70% up)-he did not seem pleased:-) If someone says I cannot do it, I do it. Its the best motivator for me. I break rules, or find ways around them. I was trained to. Applying that to my body, is harder than applying that in my field of work. Thats the tunnel I am pulling out of. Being so strong, then becoming so weak. I don't do "weak" well. I am outa that one:-)

 

JHR
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 @CJCJ I listened to Dale on SOFREP radio. He said something basically like "I was lucky to walk away in good condition" from Delta. Then later in the show, he mentioned the accident where he broke his back. I was like, man, this guy has a great attitude. I liked the Self-Actualization on his blog.

 

I know little about the P-51's.But, you are in luck. I race Porsches and every once in a while I clean out a warehouse, change things up and get rid of a few engines, cars, parts, etc. So, I make friends with folks all over the USA on that one. One guy that likes my engines,parts has P-51 in his email and owns at least one. He said "anytime" on going up. Italian guy, has a few race cars, I want to say from Illinois, Chicago? Very nice man.

 

I losy my inspiration.This last one took me to the darkest depth. My Dad says I am "lucky" that I've made it this far, as I've done so much and walked away unscathed. Manly just broken bones, stitches, mainly upper body injuries from falls. Allot of cuncussions, getting knocked ot completely. Hearing your story, yes, more another day, for sure. If you can do it, I will too. Thats pretty amazing TM. I am more weak right now, than broken. Luckily, I can garner strength by pulling the boot laces tighter. Its my passion, overcoming. I think I just lost my way, but am coming out of the tunnel.

 

 

flhtse05
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 @BoydCrowder  @CJCJ  @JHR

 Good on ya brother!!!!!

BoydCrowder
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 @CJCJ  @JHRThere aren't many subjects I'm an expert on but I have a little experience with that after 23 surgeries post-MVA, losing a leg, use of arm, etc.

 

Defiance was my friend. It was a valuable tool. The surgeons, nurses, physical therapists, aned occupational therapists would come into my room, seemingly daily, and throw a wet blanket on my hopes. They'de say things like:

* Oh you"were" a pilot, well, lets be realistic, you won't be flying anymore because you're blind in 1 eye, have 1 leg, and your right arm is damaged.

* Oh, you won't be teaching karate at your dojo anymore because you just have 1 leg now.

* Oh, you won't be climbing ladders in you family's roofing business anymore because you're an above-knee amputee and your arm doesn't work right now.

 

Screw that! It took some time (about a year) but I returned to all of those activities and then some. Defiance is what kept me going some days...screw them and their attempt to super-impose their own feelings of inadequacy on me. Screw 'em!

 

When I was discharged I was a little pissed off, but highly motivated. :-)

 

CJCJ
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 @JHR The P-51 is such an iconic warbird, and has such great performance, that it's considered a trophy toy for the rich and famous and the likes of Tom Cruise. I've been to the RARs, but fortunately missed that tragedy. I've lost a number of coworkers who were competing in the RACs and air shows on the side.

 

You'll make it through this just fine so long as you at least try to be compliant. Non-compliance can be a good sign from a motivational standpoint. You may be interested to know that 10+ years ago there was a time when I could barely walk to the pool for my own rehab, but have come very far since. But we'll save that story for another day. I suggest you get some rest young lady so that your body can do some more healing and get ready for the race and the romp. We may have some mission creep at work here, but as long as it's fun then I'm game.

 

Thanks for the tip. I'll have to check out DC's blog.

 

Inspiration and motivation never go out of style. You are definitely an inspiration. 

JHR
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 @CJCJ honestly, I'd settle for a coin purse at this point. I have alligator on the mind. The P-51 goes for that much? They crashed last year, were you there? If you go to airshows, we know some of the same people. I am linked with a few in aviation.

 

Its past midnight, 11 days to go. I hope your films looks awesome TM. I just read Dale Comstocks Blog. Its good. It was motivational. I liked it. Brandon mentioned something about it in his book I think.

 

In all fairness, my surgeon knew I had a project to finish and a ranch to pack up before I could do the bedrest thing. If I make it through this, I'll be one happy gal.

 

Keeping things shiny. We will work on the swim race. Maybe a relay team? or one on one? Awesome on the Bikes. I am moving to a coast ranch, if you rode a bike down the hill, you would cliff dive into the ocean. My friends have "mentioned" that fun factor to me. :-) Sigh.

 

CJCJ
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 @JHR Been there, done that too. Most medical pros will tell you that patient "compliance" is one of their greatest challenges.

 

Perspective can be a wonderful thing when trying to deal with trying times. As bad as we may think we have it, look around and you'll always find someone who's worse off. Nothing like it to give you an appreciation for not being in their shoes, and providing the notion that maybe it's not so bad after all. Perspective and empathy are good things for all concerned.

 

A race you say? I'm intrigued but need more information before accepting your challenge. Is this like a duel whereby accepting I get to choose the weapons, but in this case the nature of the race? If so, I'm thinking P-51s at the Reno Air Race course. $ could be an issue. Last I checked they go for $1M+ a piece.

 

I'm totally with you on the getting back to the fun stuff. In that vein, I just bought a couple of nice 2012 closeout F/S 29 mountain bikes. Something to do during the day since I'll be looking for boot quality gator hides by night. ;-)

 

Shiny side up and locked. Doors closed. Checklist complete. TM

 

 

JHR
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 @CJCJ I had the greatest surgeons, good Navy and Army Trauma guys.The best in their fields.  And I did everything they told me not to do. Now, I am paying the price. I went back too soon. Pool and Ocean beginning next month, I will race you!  I have 2 girlfriends that became widows in the past couple years, I lost a few friends, there have been some miracles.A few friends have lost one of their kids, we lost 2 in our family. I keep thinking, others have it worse than me. When I think like that, I can take the down time a little bit easier. So buckle up TM, Stay shiny. We need to be back flying, sailing, riding horses and I believe you have an alligator to hunt:-)

 

CJCJ
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 @JHR I'm trying to be a good cooperative patient but it's not easy... How goes your progress and pool therapy? 

JHR
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 @CJCJ  12 Days to go. Speedy Healing TM. Yes, I have comms.

 

CJCJ
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 @JHR 

Always. Got the primary and secondary grids and comms in case we get separated?

JHR
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 @CJCJ  Your bro is going to splash us out. Hope you have your gear handy.

 

CJCJ
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 @JHR  @LauraKinCA 

TM, I was with my team working when that profile came in. They all saluted you.

 

Thanks. It's very kind of you to say that. TM

JHR
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 @CJCJ  @LauraKinCA TM, I was with my team working when that profile came in. They all saluted you.

 

CJCJ
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 @JHR  @LauraKinCA 

 CJ, we really need to get you a cool avatar. This stealth guy look needs an update :)

...I'll have to see if I can find a pic of AH Otter in a toga

 

 LauraKinCA  CJCJ he is camera shy. That tells the whole story right there. And, he profiled my childhood to a T in another thread. Remember CJ?

...How did you know?... never mind - dumb question. And yes, I do remember.

 

 Maybe something aeronautical - helo shot or maybe a cool A10??

...I may have something like that in a box somewhere. I'll see what I can come up with.

 

JHR
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 @CJCJ  @LauraKinCA Thank YOU. Looks like you will be on top of your game before me. Godspeed.

 

CJCJ
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 @JHR  @LauraKinCA 

Godpseed on that healing. 73...as in 7/3.

 

And to you in your healing as well.

 

7/3 is correct.

JHR
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 @LauraKinCA I'll never have another birthday without thinking about Glen. Will honor with a donation, a smile and allot of tequila. He was a crab too, the 10th. What a hero.

 

LauraKinCA
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 @JHR  @CJCJ

 Maybe something aeronautical - helo shot or maybe a cool A10??

JHR
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 @LauraKinCA  @CJCJ he is camera shy. That tells the whole story right there. And, he profiled my childhood to a T in another thread. Remember CJ?

 

LauraKinCA
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 @CJCJ  @JHR

 CJ, we really need to get you a cool avatar. This stealth guy look needs an update :)

JHR
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 @CJCJ  @LauraKinCA 13 is my favorite number. You are in LUCK. Godpseed on that healing. 73...as in 7/3.

 

LauraKinCA
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 @JHR  @CJCJ  @engelbrad

 Really love to hear about the totally involved and committed parenting. So easy to loose track of what is going on in their lives as they get to be teens.

JHR
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 @LauraKinCA  @CJCJ  @engelbrad I know exactly where he is at all times and when he uses his credit cards. We have each others 6. Thats one thing I will say.

 

CJCJ
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 @JHR  @LauraKinCA 

CJ...Hows your foot? Is it unifying? Hope so....Are you a Crab? Me and Laura spilled, your turn Toga Man.

 

New see thru pics in 13 days will tell the tale, or since you probably know, you could tell me now...

 

73, same as my first football jersey number, but you knew that too. TM

 

JHR
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 @LauraKinCA  @CJCJ  @engelbrad My son is pretty savvy. I had him doing hand to hands at 5 years old. The crap he has seen. I feel bad for him.

 

LauraKinCA
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 @JHR  @CJCJ  @engelbrad

 Perfect example of why it is totally accepted that a parent should scour through their kid's social media, phone, computer, notes, etc.!

JHR
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 @LauraKinCA  @CJCJ  @engelbrad You know how I found out? Lion Boy had it on his PHONE. And, I heard it through a Generals son, that said to me "you know what your son calls you?" Yeah, He wouldn't dare call me that to my face. Lil shit

 

LauraKinCA
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 @JHR  @CJCJ  @engelbrad

 Shhhsh... make sure your son isn't around. You don't what that kind of intel getting out there. Messes with your cred.!

engelbrad
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 @LauraKinCA  @CJCJ  @JHR

Oh I know that Mom thing... I missed half of my adolescence searching for hidden cameras and bugs!

JHR
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 @LauraKinCA  @CJCJ  @engelbrad

 Actually, I am a klutz. I just sorta fall into shit. Dumb and dumber works well for me. I do have a third.........sixth sense :-)

LauraKinCA
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 @JHR  @CJCJ  @engelbrad

 He would have to give you a nickname in a language other than English. That is fitting :)

JHR
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 @CJCJ  @engelbrad  @LauraKinCA  Thats what my son says. Hence the nickname; El  Kommendant.

 

LauraKinCA
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 @CJCJ  @engelbrad  @JHR

 She also has the sneaky mom sense and the eyes in the back of her head.. look out!

JHR
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 @CJCJ  @LauraKinCA CJ...Hows your foot? Is it unifying? Hope so....Are you a Crab? Me and Laura spilled, your turn Toga Man.

 

CJCJ
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 @engelbrad  @JHR  @LauraKinCA 

CJ... It's JHR... She knows all!...lol

 

Scary, just plain scary!

engelbrad
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 @CJCJ  @JHR  @LauraKinCA

 CJ... It's JHR... She knows all!...lol

CJCJ
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 @JHR  @LauraKinCA 

Many of my friends are crabs:-) Shipley is a Crab as well, I think, July Bday. Maybe there is hope for Team P?

 

How did you know that about me?

LauraKinCA
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 @JHR

 Jack's is the 9th. Crabs are king! :)

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