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Home » SOF News » Three Kurdish Women with Ties to PKK Assassinated in Paris

Three Kurdish Women with Ties to PKK Assassinated in Paris

by Brandon Webb · January 10, 2013 · Posted In: SOF News
Three Kurdish Women with Ties to PKK Assassinated in Paris
For those of you who aren’t familiar with the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), Kurdish: Partiya Karkerên Kurdistan  or پارتی کار که‌رانی کوردستان.  It was founded in 1978 with the main goal of a an autonomous Kurdistan. The Kurds are the largest ethnic group in the World without their own country. It’s also recognized by the UN, and U.S. as a terrorist organization. 

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Strange times we are living in when three EU women related to the PKK are shot execution style in Paris, France.  It definitely sounds like a professional job, what country’s assassination squad would be motivated is the question.  There are many who don’t want to see Kurdistan as their own state. 

Here’s the rest of the story from Al Jazeera English. -Brandon

Three Kurdish women have been shot dead overnight inside the Kurdish Information Centre in Paris, including a co-founder of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).

Their bodies were found at around 2am on Thursday morning [0100GMT]. All three were shot in the head.

“The scene leads one to think of an execution, but the investigation will determine the exact circumstances,” a police source told the AFP news agency.

French interior minister Manuel Valls, who visited the centre, also described the killings as an execution. “This is a very grave matter and this explains my presence. This is unacceptable,” he told reporters at the scene.

Sources in Diyarbakir, in eastern Turkey, told Al Jazeera that one of the women, Sakine Cansiz, was a co-founder of the PKK, the separatist group which has been fighting a decades-long insurgency against the Turkish government. Cansiz was one of the PKK’s European representatives.

‘We are all PKK’

Another was 32-year-old Fidan Dogan, who worked in the centre, according to its director, Leon Edart. The third was Leyla Soylemez, described by the group as a “young activist.”

Hundreds of Kurdish protesters gathered outside the centre in Paris to protest the killings.

The three were last seen on Wednesday at the centre, which was locked by late afternoon.

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Brandon Webb is a former U.S. Navy SEAL with combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the Middle East. His last tour in the SEAL Teams was as the Course Manager for the US Navy SEAL Sniper program, arguably one of the most difficult sniper courses in the world. He was formerly a contributing editor for Military.com, and currently the Editor-in-Chief of SOFREP.com. Brandon is regularly featured in the media as a subject matter expert on military affairs. An avid writer, his last two books (The Red Circle, & Benghazi: The Definitive Report) both hit the New York Times best seller list, and his writing has been featured in print, and digital media worldwide. You can follow him on Twitter @BrandontWebb

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ArcticWarrior
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http://www.france24.com/en/20130111-kurdish-france-slain-pkk-female-turkey-sakine-cansiz-profile-legend

 

"The presence in France of one of the founders of the PKK -- an outlawed militant group considered a terrorist organization by the EU, the US and Turkey among other countries -- has raised eyebrows in some international circles."

RedWanderer
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I seem to be doing my usual arm-wrestling with livefyre and my posts seem to go poof.  They'll probably all appear at once tomorrow but in the meantime, I loved this quote, Arctic Warrior.  It's one of those REALLY profound quotes that goes into one of my special files. :)  Hope you don't mind if I borrow it....

 

And most civilizations have a war like element to them, very few pacifist ancient civilizations.Read more: http://sofrep.com/15961/three-kurdish-women-with-ties-to-pkk-assassinated-in-paris/#ixzz2HuMSrGHm

HM1 (FMF) Ret.
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"It looks like an execution but were still Investigating". Nope it was a suicide, after years of not getting a free Kurdistan 3 depressed workers shot them selves in the back of the head, here is your sign..

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @HM1 (FMF) Ret. I'm sure you can appreciate the complexity the "suicides" add to the region and how any number of parties would benefit.

HM1 (FMF) Ret.
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@dmalert Definantly. Hell in Russia it probably would be ruled a suicide... LOL!

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @HM1 (FMF) Ret.  @dmalert LOL. Pretty easy to do when the bars all serve P210 vodka shots....

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @HM1 (FMF) Ret. And the cleverness of it all. LOL

LauraKinCA
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 @CK5150  @dmalert 

You guys want to come to the top again?

CK5150
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert Man, I can make that sound so wrong in my head.  But, yes that's a good idea.

 

LauraKinCA
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 @CK5150  @dmalert

 That's because you are a bad boy, a bit punchy with lack of ammo, and ready to call it a night :)

CK5150
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert I have plenty.  Just preparing for the apocalypse.  You can always use more.  Plus it's more fun to make your own.  

 

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150 BTW what is you avatar house?  Grain mill

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @CK5150

 Big plans for the weekend or is in going to rain the whole time?

LauraKinCA
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 @CK5150  @dmalert

 OK, I will sign off too. Have a great weekend! Good luck ammo hunting :)

CK5150
CK5150 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert contacts drying up.  sack time.  night all.   CK out.  

CK5150
CK5150 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert components are hard to find right now but that will calm down in a month or two assuming our king doesn't impose some crazy illegal ban.  depends what caliber you are shooting, too.  old school stuff is not as hard to find.  

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts

 @CK5150  @dmalert

 Is it still reasonable $$ getting the makings for reloading or has that skyrocketed too??

CK5150
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert way cheaper to reload.  initial cost can be expensive but overtime it pays off. 

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @CK5150

 Nite DM. Have fun this weekend and we will find new topics to bandy about soon. And one of these days you will grow to trust me :)

CK5150
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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA i ain't knocking it.  i'm surrounded by women in this house.  i had to go get male dogs just to even out the odds.  guess it's my fault i didn't put the stem on the apple.  twice. 

LauraKinCA
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 @CK5150  @dmalert

 Dad has a Sharps rifle (replica) that he likes to shoot - he set up a firing range off the back deck - and various other pistols and rifles. I don't think he shoots that much, mainly because of the ammo cost and the trying to figure out the reloading.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150 All right LK - I'm going to sleep

CK5150
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert It is a very simple process and if you are vigilant in your habits, very safe.  If you are one of the idiots who sets his deck/house on fire trying to fry a turkey, then no, reloading is not for you.  Pistol reloading is very easy, rifle is a little more complex but still not bad.  

LauraKinCA
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 @CK5150  @dmalert

 You totally missed out on the guys the other night! Comparisons about coke cans, inches long or around, all kinds of guy stuff. I was out with friends and came home to read all that and just about fell off the couch laughing. And only hjw there for female comic relief, but even she was a bit shy about butting into that convo :)

dmalert
dmalert 5pts

 @CK5150  @LauraKinCA Don't forget the beer. 

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150 Agreed, but it is what it is.

CK5150
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert Dick jokes and farts.  pretty much sums up a "guys" night.  maybe some sports thrown in for good measure. 

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @CK5150

 That is controlling if she gets to go out on the town but doesn't afford her hubby the same favor. Not liking that one.

 

Haven't decided about tomorrow quite yet. Some long walking of the dog, especially on Sunday - our 2 hr, 7 mi walk with my friend Lisa. Maybe something similar tomorrow am. Still trying to decide on my replacement couch so I may be back at the Ethan Allen store tomorrow to finalize that. We'll see about the rest.

CK5150
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert yep.  the primer is a the little metal cap you see on the back of the shell(case).  It contains a little bit of explosive that in turn ignites the powder which burns until the pressure pushes the bullet down the barrel.  that's essentially it, not that you didn't know how a bullet fires.  

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150 It would be even better, but his wife controls him too much.  I 'd like to go out on the town, but she's not having it.  So we'll just chill at his place. Have to verify this tomorrow though.

 

Et tu Laurae?

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts

 @CK5150  @dmalert

 I ask about reloading as my dad is learning from a friend of his, but supposedly it is tricky.

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @CK5150

 You are spoiling my mental image of guys night :)

LauraKinCA
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 @CK5150  @dmalert

 Primers? Does that mean you reload your own? Sorry, not up on the ammo lingo.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150 LOL guys drinking beer no movie

CK5150
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert just driving kids around to different stuff like always.  aside from my vision quest, of course.  just thrilled i found primers today.  those are usually the hardest to find.  

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @CK5150

 Guys movie night with some good BBQ?

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150 Might go see a bud tomorrow night.  think his wife's going out

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @CK5150

 Lighthouse at the end of the pier in my home town. Pic I took this summer playing with the different settings in my camera phone. I liked the sepia tone look.

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @CK5150

 Yep. Something I've been looking at and visiting since I was a few weeks old. Iconic in my life.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150 Cool - Michigan?

hjw1dr
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Up at the top again... no way to reach that far south. Livefyre.. up to her old tricks. :) @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  @LauraKinCA 

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Hellooooooo

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @dmalert  DM, Helllooooo !   LOL

RedWanderer
RedWanderer 5pts

 @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert  @hjw1dr 

 

Don't see that my post "took" so sorry if this is a repeat but I LOVE THIS QUOTE, AW!

RedWanderer
RedWanderer 5pts

 @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert  @hjw1dr 

 

This might be among one of my all-time favorite profound internet quotes! 

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @ArcticWarrior Mostly gone.  Real nasty bug.

CK5150
CK5150 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Need to go back up top.  Unlivewyre is broken again for me.  

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @dmalert  @CK5150  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Well, you know us all powerful beings. We do pretty much what amuses us at the time. I mean look at Q and all the crap he pulled on ST-NG!?

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @ArcticWarrior

 Crap rainy days are good for lazing around the house. Crisp, cool and clear here.... meant I had to bust ass to get stuff done that I put off by taking 2.5 weeks off over the holidays. BTW is your flu all gone now???

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior So ruin an entire town so you can go dune boogeing.  LOL

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @CK5150  @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 I've been hearing that vision quest is about all you get out there for the ammo runs. Unreal.

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @CK5150  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

Why did I bury the town? <large emphasis on the I in that query> LOL, the blowing sand buried it. But if I was all powerful, maybe I would have so that I could have that dune buggy ride and story to go along with the trip :)

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Why did you bury the town

CK5150
CK5150 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior got a few minutes before I hit the hay.  Vision quest tomorrow to find bullets and powder.  Shit is disappearing everywhere here.  

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @ArcticWarrior Crap rainy day have been out of it all day

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @ArcticWarrior

 I guess that is OK as it is 1am for you :)

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @CK5150  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert

 We had a buried town next to my home town along the west coast of Michigan. They timber cut everything down back in the day and then the sand dunes reclaimed it. Great dune buggy riding times.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @ArcticWarrior Here, but I slipped into bed

dmalert
dmalert 5pts

 @CK5150  @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior I 've been in Jerome a few times

LauraKinCA
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 @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  

OK, nite hjw.

 

CK are you sticking around?

 

DM, I see you lurking. Are you bailing on me too??

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  Yep... after midnight.  Forgive me... turning into pumpkin. :)

CK5150
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert It's no ghost story.  Jerome was a mining town back in the day.  When the mining went bust, everyone left and it got down to like 10 people.  It's grown back but still very small.  Lots of hippie artists and the like.  The hotel wasn't open when we were there but it has since reopened and plays upon the haunted theme.  

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @CK5150  @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  @king  Well,, hate to say this... but I'm tired out!  Man... what a lot of typing. !  Fingers need a rest.! LOL

LauraKinCA
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 @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  

 43 here going down to freezing. Are you bailing then??

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @CK5150  @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  @king  It's 65 here... and late! 

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @CK5150  @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 Did you go visit that hotel??

CK5150
CK5150 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Yeah, well it's fu@king cold here in the AZ desert tonight!  Just spent the last hour covering plants, pipes and other stuff.  

LauraKinCA
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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 Bailed... maybe, scared... no way!

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  Looks like DM bailed... or he got scared. lol

CK5150
CK5150 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior There's a haunted hotel in Jerome, AZ.  It's about 75 miles north of Phoenix.  

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  Oh, I thought that was on record... <shutting up>  lol

LauraKinCA
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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 Hush! Don't be giving out hints. OPSEC remember!

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior Laura,  you forgot the special matching pieces of 8...  (goofy!)  It's the leisure suit initiation that always get them. 

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert

 I'm glad you figured it out! I was going to have to ask CK :)

 

BTW, Hey CK, welcome!! We need your ghost story.

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @CK5150  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert  Atlantis!  All those casinos! 

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 There are deep and dark rituals involved here, you know. And we are coming up with a new secret handshake soon. Still arguing about that one. Some weird contortions have been proposed and shot down so far. Want in???

hjw1dr
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  LOL... it's a puzzle... but there's a process. 

CK5150
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert It's in the Bahamas.  I see commercials for it everyday.  They have a huge waterslide, golf...........

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior LOL - I don't need to know.

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 OPSEC and PERSEC on that one. If you want in, then as the initiation progresses, all will be made clear, or at least less muddy :)

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  LOL...  Laura... don't give it away!  make him work for it!   :)

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior LOL what is that.

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Got to protect your SSI (secret squirrel identity). There is a new SSI club, if you want in. There is an initiation though. Pretty tough stuff. You need to be prepared, work up to it :)

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Never went to that, but tired of seeing the bumper stickers.

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior no

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior LOL  at some point though

LauraKinCA
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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 I've been through the Sarah Winchester House in San Jose which is supposed to be haunted. Nothing. But there have been several weird sightings.

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  Want to take it to email?  

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior Shouldn't you be trying to free her?

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Snow Leopard's choice :)

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  What I said was true too.  Saw her... 1890s dress... little girl. running down the hall on the 5th floor of the Driskhill Hotel. It's haunted. You can even look it up. All sorts of people have sighted her. 

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Not yet

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 I will throw out one option. I can give you my email (I have hjw's) and we can take this off line if you want.

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior Everything I've said is true whether people can handle it or not.

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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  THis is like a campfire story... LOL

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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior LOL - don't care

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 They will say we went off the rez again!

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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  Yeah... and you're up top the thread!  LOL

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA Tell us more

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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  The ghost was a little girl who ran down the hallways.  Nothing bad. Just annoying... all night. running, noise. ringing of a little bell. 

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior I wonder what people reading this in the morning must think.  LOL

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 I've had one "reading" done at a party and I really don't think I gave anything away, but she was dead on about a few things. No ghosts, but I do think they are out there.

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  Dm, Laura... you definitly need to see it. 4 corners is very cool...

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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior I love night Jasmine

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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  I like sitting at the top of a mesa, and watching the afternoon rains in summer slowly rise up the valleys. quiet... especially a sunset.

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 Never been to the 4 corners. Some day.

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior Never been up there.  One of few places have not been to in AZ

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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Nature in general I guess.  Beaches, mountains.  I like being in desert at night.

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Makes you calm like me being on or adjacent to large water bodies makes me calm.

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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  I love the 4 corners area. Mesas are so calming. 

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior But I really love the desert.  Makes me really calm.

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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  It was in a hotel. I was staying in a haunted room... but of course thought it was just a story. Not! 

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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior Please go there.  I've never seen a ghost

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Kindergarten Cop - Arnold Schwarzenegger.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior disagree with the weird only happening in deserts

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Disagree with which comment. Too many to keep track of.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Arnie?

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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  Can't help it! :)  But I haven't had your experience... I have had others that are just as weird.  Ghosts... and other things. But won't go into them here. 

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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior disagree

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Brain tumor?? I can just hear Arnie yelling "It's not a tumor!!"

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior DM  -- of course!  lol

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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior LOL - wasn't a seizure either.  That's the shrink in you trying to find a rational explanation.

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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  Got to be weird trying to explain something so out of normal experience. :) But it is what it is. 

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 My comment was more general I guess going back to strange things always happening in deserts, in a broader sense.

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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  I've also read about heat, dehydration and seizures. But sightings are usually at night... I think. Seizures can feel like a mystical experience with visual lights. 

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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior night

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 I'm not doubting you. But you have to admit that mirages make people see odd things - not UFOs but other things. Besides if you saw a bright light it was probably at night or at least dusk or dawn.

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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior I was not dehydrated

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Very true, which is why my aversion to one but not the other is kinda odd.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Barracudas are fine, but they can quickly give you 100 stitches.

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Maybe mirages, lack of water doing funny things to your body and emotions - we are so tied to water being composed of so much of it.

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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA    Desert. Yes. And always in flat wide areas... long valleys....seems like. 

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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior You're right a lot does happen in the desert - unclear why.

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Funny, I didn't have the same fear of barracuda and I watched the dive masters feeding them and how quickly they darted to grab the fish, but the concept of sharks, any shark creeped me out. And I did not like night diving at all.

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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  There is nothing like the desert... and the alone time there. But it is strange how alot of ET sights are in the desert. balls of light. stuff like that.

 

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Not too far. I find it fascinating that you had such an experience. I never have so it is a bit hard to relate, but I am enjoying the concept and talking about it.

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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  Nah... just chatting! UFO stuff is part of interesting, what if....!

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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior LOL - did I go too far with the ET stuff?

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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  I have seen sharks,,, swam (accidently) with dolphins in Hawaii.  Scared the heck out of me! Suddenly all surrounded by them...!  They were chasing a school of fish. I got out quick. 

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior There are sharks always in the water whether you're up to you knees or 500 yards offshore.  You mentally need to accept that you can't do shit about it and that they aren't interested in you unless you're bleeding.  This being said not easy to have that mindset when you get bumped.

LauraKinCA
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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 Anything else in current events that we should be figuring out? Smiling Joe and his prepping to draw the conservatives out to look like fanatics??

hjw1dr
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  I figure we go till we tire out. 

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 I didn't have any problems diving, even down to 100 feet, but I never wanted to even come close to seeing a shark.

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Well, as I know so little about PKK, you can either expound to your heart's delight, we quit, or I'm afraid we continue off topic :)

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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  Oh, I'm sure I'd be unnerved. I can't imagine going down deep in the ocean... I can swim in the shallow end,,, but just thinking of all that deep dark gets to  me.  Fascinates and scares.  Like much of life ! :)

dmalert
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 @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr Yeah - the ocean's weird at night.

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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Guys - not trying to sell you on anything and not sure how we got on topic, but there's a lot out there that would unnerve people - good and bad. 

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Whether you could explain away the bright light, no one would expect to feel emotion coming from it as you've described.

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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  I have been in mountains, middle of great lakes, alone in desert. Never saw anything like that... doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Just never saw it. 

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior No.  This was bright as shit.  Not something anyone would miss.

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 @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr

 That would certainly have been an impactful experience.

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 @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  I think people are visited. Just that we usually aren't aware. It's too big of a reality shift. I know I would be confused and looking for a way to explain that was "normal."   Rather than different.  Just saying...

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 Yep. Loved that stuff and structural geology in undergrad. Now I do dirt :)

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 @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr Went right into my soul. 

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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Sure plate tectonics.

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 The rocks we were studying were found in Newfoundland I think but were formed near the equator.

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 @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr I saw ufo in desert.  And the thing was the intense emotion I got from it.  So UFO, Advanced being, angel - no idea but strong positive energy

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 I was an assistant to a research assistant for one of my geol profs once studying pillow lavas and using magnetism to determine where they were when they were lava hardening into rock. Cool stuff.

hjw1dr
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  magnetic polarity is in the rock layers... 

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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  Yeah... that's what I saw written up in a journal... years ago. Rocks with magnetic reversals... polarity shifts about every 26,000 years... interesting coincidence. 

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 No, I meant that I don't know about the 26K cycle. My scientific background is geology not astronomy, though I loved it the times I was exposed to it in middle school.

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 They are all over Rez land its a strange feeling when you walk by one. You wonder what dude drew it and why

 

I have been to a lot of remote places, and I can honestly say, even with all the darkness and remoteness devoid of most humanity, I have never seen a UFO, Bigfoot, Nessie or Jackie O.

Never had a WTF moment in the middle of nowhere.

The oceans...thats another story. Dont like them at all.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior No 26k year cycle is science.

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 Magnetic pole reversals, yes. Not so much about the 26K cycle.

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 @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Don't know about reversals.  Keep in mind lot of BS on net.  But precession is hard core science.

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  I heard something about 26,000 year cycle... and also something about magnetic reversals?  Laura, I bet you know some about that. 

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr

 I knew about Lyra for navigating. Thats good stuff.....

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 @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert  AW, wonderful! I was invited to do down with a group of Hopi to look at a cliff dwelling that was (mostly) undisturbed. Paintings were amazing... with haloed starman..  I really was enchanted but felt weird too. 

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Atlantis is a name for advanced civilization pre flood - if you believe ancient Egyptian priest Sonchis of Sais - 9k years before Plato or 12k before us

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession_%28astronomy%29

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 @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  Ah.. dm! Gotcha. Just never heard of it put that way before. 

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 I have personally seen the art out on the rez in the middle of nowhere, its actually not all that rare to see starman stonework

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 @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr Part of surviving + also makes for romantic epics.  LOL

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 @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert

 Personally, kind of always thought there had to be truth in Atlantis. There is so much in ocean levels, tectonics, shifting boundaries that it kind of makes sense to me. And I like the romantic view of it.

hjw1dr
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 @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert  I've visited the Hopi... fascinating group. And the stories of the Anasazi... 

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Precession of the Equinoxes.  Almost 26k year cycle - wobble in the axis.  So on vernal equinox sun rises in a given constellation for 2100 years or so.  and this slips backwards.  So age of Pisces - Christian fish, Aires - the ram, Taurus the bull (destroy golden calf - not cause evil rather astronomically age is over.  This is where all the hippie BS comes on age of Aquarius.

hjw1dr
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 @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert  Laura, maybe. What do you think about the legend of Atlantis and other place myths? Just curious. I have no opinion.

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 @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert  @hjw1dr

 I think life was too harsh to support any pacifist tendencies. Just the day to day struggle.

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr

 And most civilizations have a war like element to them, very few pacifist ancient civilizations.

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 @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr Funny because this douche with the DNA went around the world explaining his theory.  Real pompous blond haired cali boy. Africa, Uzbekistan, etc.  Explains it to the Hopi and they're pissed as he shits on their version of what happened.  He was very condescending as well.  And guess what.  The Hopi have it right not the douche.

LauraKinCA
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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 Or if you do see it but automatically assume there is a reasonable explanation, then you have given yourself one.

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  Age of Leo?  a movie? or something else. never heard of it.

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  YES!  Starman... liked that movie. Not so much an adventure out of space... just a what if .... (My fav kind of stories)

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Age of Leo is a good bet

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  Well, if people don't expect to see it. then they rarely do. :)

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA Starman

ArcticWarrior
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr

 As the Hopi

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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr It's nothing like that

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 @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Dogon people in North Africa believed in star people

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 @ArcticWarrior  @dmalert  I think the sphinx goes Waaayback...

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr It frightens people if you topple their world view.  Contact was a good example of this.

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 They know think Nineva goes back to 7000 BC and as they figure out the written words that the desert sand must have swallowed up other civilizations. Some in Turkey go back to 10,000

hjw1dr
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  I like a really old scifi movie... had Jeff Bridges.  Can't remember the name... dog gone....  :)

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr Who knows.

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr

 I will say one of my favorite contemporary movie series is MIB :) Aliens among us.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr One time happened in a bar.  I was with a customer.  My poor customer was freaked out.  I thought it was odd.  I turned around and my customer looked horrified.  LOL>

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  And Dogon, like???

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 @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr Dogon

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 @dmalert  past high level.. I can see that too. We don't know anything before 6,000 bc... If humans have been around 2 million.. fairly unchanged physically... well.  hmmmm

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  I've seriously thought that aliens could be future travelers... you know.. just flying through to see history as it happens.  

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr Could be and ay also recount past high level human society.

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr

 Wow, that would have been quite and experience. Can't say I have ever experience anything similar.

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 Except most of the worlds religions and deities reference the stars, and humans have a yearning to go to the stars, as opposed to the oceans which are more alien to us as its a 3 dimensional world, complete with inhabitants with languages we dont understand

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr Flying around sky.  The in person stuff - you don't need to know.  Suffice it to say they are in human form walking around.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr White balls - extremely bright, but didn't hurt eyes and you could feel love emanating from it.  (not on drugs)

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 Good point as to the origin of myths. Things that they couldn't explain by observing each other and behaviors explained by aliens.

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  I have thought that ancient myths could be explained by alien ocurances. I've also thought they could be explained by Dinosaur bones... "the bones of giants."  you know...

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr

 OK, then spill the deets!

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr ROFL.  I have.

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr How else would you see it?

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  No... I haven't seen in person. I have seen weird things... not UFOs. though.  I've seen Aliens... the movie!  lol

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr

 Saw a funny slow moving (flying) large light from a distance once. Probably explainable though. No aliens, except for a few guys I have met at the bars over the years.

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  In person? 

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr So have you seen UFOs or aliens?

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  Mine wasn't either... it was funny seeing comments.. then they would disappear as they dropped below the "fold" I couldn't get to. 

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr LOL - my page was not updating.

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  @LauraKinCA  Whoo hoooo... I feel like sherazade.... follow me my darlings...  lol

LauraKinCA
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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 Are you gonna lead us all astray?? I'm in!!

hjw1dr
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior   Astray?  Never... just on a nice little jaunt!  LOL

LauraKinCA
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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 We've moved to sci-fi movies that parallel ancient realities. Jump right in! Water's warm.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior Not parallel - actual...

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior

 OK, how about the Hollywood version of actual??

hjw1dr
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  So what scifi have you discussed?

 

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr

 LOL! a douche scientist? In the Bay Area? You have to be kidding!! <she snickers at her own sarcastic wit>

LauraKinCA
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 @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 True about legend becoming science. I just saw a news bit about getting film of a giant squid - cool stuff - and one to study.

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr PBS special on how they traced migration by dna.  Some douche scientist from Bay Area

ArcticWarrior
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 Actually both, some made it, others didnt. Im sure as they decode the genome further the riddle will play out.

At one point Gorillas and Giant Squid were the stuff of legend, not science

LauraKinCA
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 @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr

 Hadn't heard about DNA stories. Can you expand?

LauraKinCA
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 @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 Do they think that different groups sprung up in a relatively contemporary time period to each other (favorable period of earth time) or scattered in time too?

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr That DNA story is twisted as well.  We go back millions upon millions of years.

ArcticWarrior
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 I saw a study that was working on the theory that humanity sprung up all over and didnt originate solely in Africa. They are finding old fossilised humanoid bones in China and SE Asia

dmalert
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 @ArcticWarrior  @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr Amazon.  Keep in mind Bolivia easily 15k BC

LauraKinCA
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 @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 And considering how those people likely migrated from more of the ME/Africa region in the first place. It would make more sense during ice ages when they could walk.

ArcticWarrior
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 Aztecs and other Meso Americans are 6th Century to 15th Century, the people who inhabited Nineva were ancient when Egypt wasnt even a civilization

 

But of course who knows what the jungle hides of dead civilizations

LauraKinCA
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 @ArcticWarrior  @hjw1dr  @dmalert

 Where in time do the Aztecs fall and the other similar ones? They had such barbarous rituals.

ArcticWarrior
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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @dmalert

 One of the worst is Lamashtu, she would eat infants, would wait for them to breastfeed and grab them and eat them alive. She was so bad that sects prayed to Pazuzu to keep her away. She was rogue, she didnt take orders from anyone she acted on her own, no rhyme or reason, random acts of violence. She is the model of Babylons Lilith

ArcticWarrior
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 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @dmalert

 yes she is in on it

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior  Ashtar or is that Ishtar? Godess of (I think) fertility and war? Or something...

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @ArcticWarrior

 Comparing the plot and characters in Alien to some of the worst actors in ancient mythology.

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @hjw1dr  @LauraKinCA  @dmalert

 Pazuzu and ancient Babylonian mythos, especially the stuff from Nineva

dmalert
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 @hjw1dr  @ArcticWarrior  @LauraKinCA We have resurfaced my white wolf!

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