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Home » Op-Ed » Zero Dark Thirty: A Former CIA Targeting Officer’s Perspective

Zero Dark Thirty: A Former CIA Targeting Officer’s Perspective

by Nada Bakos · January 18, 2013 · Posted In: Op-Ed
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Despite debates over its depiction of torture, Zero Dark Thirty became the most-watched movie in America this week, and looks to be heading for another strong weekend. How reliable the film’s portrait? Does it give an accurate picture of how the CIA anti-terrorism efforts really work? Nada Bakos, who spearheaded the CIA’s Zarqawi Operations team from 2004-2006 as a targeting officer, weighs in. Prior to the operations position, Bakos served as an analyst for the agency primarily in the Counterterrorism Center, and was a member of the team charged with defining the relationship between Iraq, al Qaeda, and 9/11.

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Jessica Chastain portrays the CIA analyst Maya in the new movie “Zero Dark Thirty.” (PHOTO: SONY PICTURES)
January 16, 2013 • By Nada Bakos • 2 Comments and 143 Reactions

Nada Bakos

Nada Bakos

When Pacific Standard called me to ask if I would write about Zero Dark Thirty, I still had not decided whether I wanted to see it. I was leaning toward no. People who work in intelligence don’t generally see movies about it. You can enjoy them only once you’ve been out of the game for a while, and then only if you don’t take it too seriously. I watch Homeland. It’s fun, because it’s a fantasy.

Zero Dark Thirty occupied an odd space. It’s not ridiculous enough to allow complete suspension of disbelief. I get that Hollywood needs to sell tickets, but it’s not accurate enough to resonate with my experiences as a CIA analyst and later, a targeting officer in the clandestine service.

The movie’s ‘Maya’ appears to be an amalgamation of women I knew and worked with, some of whom go back further in the story than I do. Gina Bennett, Jennifer Matthews, and Barbara Sude were part of the initial group working in the Counterterrorism Center as targeters and analysts before 9/11. After the attacks, I and other officers transferred from other departments. Many were just joining the agency, like Maya at the movie’s beginning.

I could relate to Maya as a mid-level officer, being asked to “backbench” at a briefing—you’re briefing the guy who has to brief the guy—while she knows it’s her analysis that brought everyone together in the room. Supervisors sell this as “top cover” for the lower-level officer, and there is some truth to that. It’s easier for established officers to take a hit over a bad decision than for a new officer, whose career could end on an early miscall. When I became a supervisor, I did the same thing, and dodged my share of clipboards.

But for all the similarities between my career and fictional Maya’s, the movie’s version of how counter-terrorism works didn’t resonate with me. And not just the parts involving torture that has become such a major point of contention around the film. The whole story the film tells, both in terms of the time scale and the type of human effort it depicts, is likely to create some important misconceptions for the public about how our national security system really works.

I get that this is a Hollywood movie. Hollywood will gravitate to a film that is digestible and, ultimately, profitable. And depicting the reality of national security is challenging: much of the information is secret, and a lot of it is just not dramatic. Reading hundreds of reports and crafting papers is just not that exciting. People applaud the team that’s on the court when the buzzer goes off.

But I was surprised at what I saw. We’ve got the go-it-alone gunslinger, Maya, whose past is murky and future is vague. She’s Clint Eastwood’s “Man With No Name,” re-imagined as a twenty-something woman. She gathers up a posse, heads out, and kills the bad guy. Then she leaves. Because she’s not actually Clint Eastwood, she cries a little. You expect to see someone chasing the C-130 shouting, “Shane, come back!”

In reality, cowboys don’t work as targeters. (But they do ride with a large posse that helps with more than the gunfights. This 10-year hunt involved hundreds of people with several people at the core.) More often than not, effective intelligence—including the effort to find Osama bin Laden—is the result of sustained, collective efforts that spark moments of intuition among a pool of experts and processes, not individual hunches that compel monumental effort.

Saying otherwise misrepresents not only how the hunt for bin Laden worked, but how the whole system works.

Read Nada’s full review here.

About Nada Bakos-Former Central Intelligence Agency employee Nada Bakos spearheaded the CIA’s Zarqawi Operations team from 2004-2006 as a targeting officer. Prior to the operations position, Bakos served as an analyst for the agency primarily in the Counterterrorism Center, and was a member of the team charged with defining the relationship between Iraq, al Qaeda, and 9/11

 

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usapatriotonthemove
usapatriotonthemove 5pts

Nada, Thank You for you're perspective on the film.  This movie didn't' resonate with me at all?  I didn't think it portrayed the Team guys in a good light and now, I know the three letter agencies weren't portrayed accurately either.   I think people expected more out of the movie than what they got?  I sure the hell did.   I've told people not to see it, and to wait for the video. That being said...Thank You, and those like you for what you do.  You are not just people who work in the background, you are very much appreciated and thought of by those of us who understand that freedom is not free.    

dmalert
dmalert 5pts

As others noted below it's a movie and doesn't have 12 hours to tell the whole story.   I think it did a good job of showing the frustration of 10 years of hunting, tedium and the ugliness of war. 

Sonnys Mom
Sonnys Mom 5pts

Excellent analysis, hope to hear more from Nada in the future.  How 'bout inviting her on SOFREP TV?

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Awesome breakdown... I'll admit that I will see this film when it hits Blu-Ray.

engelbrad
engelbrad 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @HugeFan

 I'm going to do the same thing Huge. Nada is filled to the brim with grey matter. I'd love to see more and more stuff from her. Hope your doing well bro!

ratt1niner
ratt1niner 5pts

http://www.kfan.com/player/?station=KFXN-FM&program_name=podcast&program_id=KFAN_Barreiro.xml&mid=22788156

 

In interview with former member of the CIA Michael Hurley and his thoughts on the movie you have to fast forward it to about the 27:30 mark to the start of the interview.  

 

 

ratt1niner
ratt1niner 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I would imagine the producers of the movie had more help with putting together the story from members of the DOD/SEALS then they did with the CIA.  I'm sure they had some details of the CIA's role but not everything.  The last 30 min of the movie seemed to play out just like It was portrayed in Bissonnette's book.  

theAtrium (banned)
theAtrium (banned) 5pts

 @ratt1niner

 

You can usually tell by how much filmmakers have access to HQ. "Argo" for example had a lot of scenes inside. The book was better, but I guess the Agency's also a fan of Ben Affleck, in comparisson is boy Matt's three Bourne movies never came close.

 

 

Trango
Trango moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Thanks for your input and perspective Nada. It's good to see professionals like you coming out and providing honest info on these hyped up hollywood/media topics. Much appreciated. 

flhtse05
flhtse05 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

It's called a "movie". Nada, thanks for your service to our great nation. It took a lot of people to get to the point of killing OBL. Here's my take on it, we spent long hard hours tracking him down, many people died in this effort, once we found him , we went in and killed his ass, case closed!

ColonelProp
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Excellent article - I am fascinated by the take and insight from the real world. I am going to wait for the movie to come out in DVD and rent it (maybe) - but it is good to see some real inputs. Great work.

Jaycel Adkins
Jaycel Adkins 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @ColonelProp Peter Bergen is putting out a documentary called MANHUNT and Nada Bakos contributed to it, that's something to check out. I'm sure once I say this, someone is going to point something out, but Bergen (along with John Miller over at CBS and Lawrence Wright) is pretty solid reporter. Looking forward to that when it comes out. 

theAtrium (banned)
theAtrium (banned) 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Jaycel Adkins  @ColonelProp 

 

Hey, man, have you read Lawrence Wright's book on Scientology yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpklvvsRO2U 

 

 

Jaycel Adkins
Jaycel Adkins 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @TheAtrium  @ColonelProp I am going to check it out today, Sunday is book store day for me, before the Games start. This topic + movies reminds me about a story I heard before: 

 

Francis Ford Coppala wanting George Lucas to turn the "philosophy" of Star Wars into a real religion. 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/1204829.stm

 

That would have been something!  Maybe the prequels would have been better movies....

 

Popular thing to diss MSM, particularly Newspaper and Cable News, (a lot of it deserved), but there are a group of people doing book-length Nonfiction Narratives that are absolutely killing it. I just picked up Susan Orlean's book, 'Rin Tin Tin.' It's pretty amazing and well written, as the saying goes, 'Better than Fiction.'

ColonelProp
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@Jaycel Adkins Cool- I will make sure I will check it out. Thanks!

Old PH2
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I was rolling into work this am and was listening to my normal NPR lefty media outlet and stumbled into this very interesting interview about the double standard of information sharing from the CIA:

http://www.onthemedia.org/2013/jan/18/cias-double-standard-secrecy/

 

I find the whole hype about this movie to be part and parcel to the problem.  Name dropping at it's finest.  This movie has a built in reputation as being "connected," the issue is: the public assumes that equates with "secret insights" and react like a mouse to peanut butter.  I have seen some wonderful movies over the years that captured stories of intel missions and movingly represented them on the screen.  Fortunately I understand the liberties that writers take with these subjects, why does today's public not understand this?

 

Thank you Nada, you are someone I always enjoy reading!  Keep up the good work! 

CK5150
CK5150 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Old PH2 My guess is that since this is something that really happened, and involved probably the most wanted person in the history of this country people expected the storyline to follow  what they had read or heard.  I don't know why they expect Hollywood to do it right since I can count on one hand the number of times they've stuck to the real story.  

Txazz
Txazz 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Thanks Nada for another great article.  I always enjoy your quiet approach on whatever the subject.  It's understandable it might be hard to sit through this movie from your viewpoint which I highly value.

Txazz
Txazz 5pts

Oh, and I forwarded your article to others.  A reply back this morning said they did not plan to waste money on the movie and appreciated your article, Nada.

ufridman
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Thank you Nada. Uri

theAtrium (banned)
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Great article, Nada!

majrod
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I'd like Nada's perspective on Maya allegedly not getting promoted because of a Reply All e-mail she sent to the awardee list for the raid.  In it she said they didn't deserve the medals and some even obstructed her for years as she searched for Bin Laden.  Allegedly she didn't get promoted.

http://todaynews.today.com/_news/2012/12/13/15884711-zero-dark-thirty-cia-agent-passed-over-for-real-life-promotion?lite

 

Allegedly the Maya character was recruited out of high school vs. college.  Is that feasible?

 

For the rest out there that like to go to the source vs. have someone interpet the data for us a bunch of stuff is available online.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB410/

 

Transcript of the CIA Vickers and Hollywood Boals talk that largely frames the movie.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/01/17/the_dynamite_pentagon_interview_behind_zero_dark_thirty?page=0,1

 

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majrod
majrod 5pts

 @TheAtrium  I stumbled across a story that said that when I was looking for the article on her "reply all" e-mail.

 

Jaycel Adkins
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 @TheAtrium  @majrod My understanding from an interview with the screenwriter was that the person who acted as Maya's template was recruited from college, it was changed in the script to obscure her identity. Which made me think, then why mention that in an interview, but whatever. 

majrod
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 @TheAtrium

 http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/01/14/zero_dark_thirty_fact_vs_fiction_who_are_the_real_life_inspirations_for.html

4FingrsOfBurbon
4FingrsOfBurbon 5pts

How does one get in touch with Nada? I'm trying to get 'in'. I do not rely strictly on internet applications...

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @4FingrsOfBurbon

 You could try her through twitter @nadabakos

Jaycel Adkins
Jaycel Adkins 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @4FingrsOfBurbon  @nadabakos she has a great twitter account, regular tweets to interesting things. 

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