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Home » Op-Ed » SOFREP on Fox News: Interrogation Techniques & Zero Dark Thirty

SOFREP on Fox News: Interrogation Techniques & Zero Dark Thirty

by Brandon Webb · January 21, 2013 · Posted In: Op-Ed
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My latest appearance on FOX News discussing interrogation techniques and the movie Zero Dark Thirty.

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I personally think that there are more effective ways of getting information out of people than water boarding. Should it still be in the tool box? Would I use it if I thought it could save innocent lives. Yes to both. As I stated on the show, “sign me up”.

RE: Zero Dark Thirty. I thought the movie was horrible. I wasn’t expecting anything other than to be entertained (It’s a movie folks). I sure as Hell don’t expect too much these days out of the Hollywood sheep factory. My main issue was that the military scenes were un-authentic and portrayed the SEALs in an amateurish light. It was like watching a bunch of kids play laser tag on target (yelling, sweeping each other with lasers). Two thumbs down, and a water boarding for the cast and crew.

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Brandon Webb is a former U.S. Navy SEAL with combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the Middle East. His last tour in the SEAL Teams was as the Course Manager for the US Navy SEAL Sniper program, arguably one of the most difficult sniper courses in the world. He was formerly a contributing editor for Military.com, and currently the Editor-in-Chief of SOFREP.com. Brandon is regularly featured in the media as a subject matter expert on military affairs. An avid writer, his last two books (The Red Circle, & Benghazi: The Definitive Report) both hit the New York Times best seller list, and his writing has been featured in print, and digital media worldwide. You can follow him on Twitter @BrandontWebb

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Obama prepares public to accept first Iranian nuclear test DEBKAfile Special Report January 15, 2013

(you'll note this news was released on a Friday)  To listen to our government's lies, read the following.

http://www.debka.com/article/22685/Obama-prepares-public-to-accept-first-Iranian-nuclear-test

Friday, Jan. 11 by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint US Chiefs Gen. Martin Dempsey.

They explained at a joint news conference in Washington that if Assad chose to use his chemical stockpiles, it would be virtually impossible for US intelligence to detect it in advance or to stop him. “You would have to actually see it before it happened," said Dempsey. [my comment: you'll notice they are having trouble keeping the lies straight]

Debkafile’s military and intelligence sources affirm that this new estimate may be convenient for some but it is false: Iran already has enough enriched uranium – produced or procured - for building at least five nukes. This is no secret. Wednesday, Jan. 9, the Financial Times reported that a stock of 5 tonnes of un-enriched uranium, enough to produce weapons-grade fuel for five atomic devices, had gone missing in Syria and may have passed to Iran. The stock had been prepared for the nuclear reactor Bashar Assad was building at Al-Kibar in eastern Syria before it was destroyed by Israel in 2007. The information was based on British intelligence sources. The nuances in Netanyahu’s current reference to the Iranian nuclear threat suggest that he too is aware of the new winds blowing in Washington. In his latest statement, he departed from his standard assertion that his government would not permit Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon and said instead: “The government which I head has invested billions to prepare the country for the Iranian threat.”

Txazz
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Police in Iowa city to buy their own semi-automatic AR-15s

By Joshua Rhett Miller

Published January 25, 2013

Police in one Iowa city could soon be buying their own assault rifles to carry in squad cars to ensure they aren't outgunned by criminals in the wake of several high-profile shootings involving semi-automatic AR-15s, Fox News.com has learned.

Half of the 50-member force in Marion, Iowa, will take part in the upgrade, paying for the $2,000 guns in installments deducted from their paychecks, according to Police Chief Harry Daugherty. He said the proposal, expected to be approved by the city’s seven-member City Council late Thursday, will mean initial responders will have enough firepower to deal with heavily armed suspects. Currently, only members of Marion’s 12-member SWAT team carry AR-15s.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/24/iowa-police-department-seeks-to-arm-officers-with-semi-automatic-ar-15s/#ixzz2J0ddH08y

 

Allwet
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As to Ike, he struck me as having a few other monkey's on his back as well.I wonder if one was part of the local agricultural community....and Ike liked to go camping....and....

Allwet
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Oh, hell-you know what I mean!

Allwet
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@tango9 while some posts tend to get colorful-(how could they not!), I will to say 2 things: 1. I 've considered the fact that you're a teacher 'as score 2 (or more)for the good guys! And 2) trying to keep up over oysters / Shiners( hey they're 5.95 a dozen m/f at this place-I don't have a choice, the math trumps all!) on a damn iPhone is almost comical!, and 3)SIC EM;)!Did I mention my ain't so hot?

Allwet
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 @tango9 @oldSquid The missing word....math , or typing on an iphone!

Tango9
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 @Allwet  @tango9 Heh.  That post is hilarious.  I'll tell you why after you've gotten away from the bourbon ;)

Txazz
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Al Qaeda's No. 2 in Yemen dies, report says

Published January 24, 2013

SANAA, Yemen –  Al Qaeda's No. 2 in Yemen died of wounds sustained in a U.S. drone attack last year in southern Yemen, the country's official news agency and a security official said Thursday

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01/24/al-qaeda-no-2-in-yemen-dies-report-says/?test=latestnews

LauraKinCA
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 @Txazz

 You think if I try hard enough I can make my crocidile tears as effective as HRC's?

Allwet
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 @Tango9  UH, OH, I thought this place was like vegas?

Tango9
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 @Allwet He spammed it to just random people in the dept.  So if I can't get the e-mail from my chair, I'll waterboard it out of someone else.

 

When I do, make no mistake:  if I can find the linky between the e-mail and livefyre, and I'm pretty sure I can pull that off, it'll at least be a lifetime ban from SOFREP.  At least.

StormR
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 @Tango9  T, the 'person' who did this has reached a whole new level of low - as in lower than an eye-sucking snake's belly.  Attempting to interfere with someone's employment - which supports their family crosses all civilized lines.   It is cheering to know, however, that 'you get back what you put out', and the 'person' just wracked himself up a large debt of big hurt.   Please whack him once for me just 'cause.  Of course if he lives in my part of the country, I would be more than happy to do it myself.

 

oldSquid
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 @Tango9

 didn't he write it sometime right before WWII? want to say late 30's. I knew it had been out for a while before we 'discovered' it.

Allwet
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@Tango9 @oldSquid 1975, under cover of darkness-with a flashlight"muted" with masking tape....L O L

Tango9
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 @oldSquid Was written before I was born I read it about 6 years after you did.

oldSquid
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9 - yep, read Lord of the Rings - probably beore you were born? 1967-68 was when I read The Hobbit - in high school - got kicked out of French class for reading it when I supposed to be conjugating french verbs or whatnot... no big loss - except that I never could understand what my cajun first ex was saying when she was pissed at me... but cajun french is completely different from 'parisian' french, so WTF...

Now. As to the word  "fuck". it is in common english useage these days - in fact you can hear it in PG13 movies - and kindergarten classes - Besides, it's in the Fuckin'  Wagnell's Dictionary!

Tango9
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 @oldSquid  @hjw1dr  @Txazz  @StormR Thanks squid, but there's a small rogue's gallery of malcontents from SOFREP history.  Likely one of them.  Maybe not, but you start looking there. 

 

smoke = fire kinda thing.

 

It's all good.  Like I said:  I don't post anything here I'm ashamed of.  They can forward all the posts of me saying "fuck" they want, it's only going to do one thing:  draw extremely unwanted attention to themselves.

 

Seen/Read the Lord of the Rings?  I'm they eye of Sauron and you just put on the Ring.

oldSquid
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 @hjw1dr  @Tango9  @Txazz  @StormR

 Same here 9 - anything I can do from TN?

hjw1dr
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 @Tango9  @Txazz  @StormR  This "person's" action will be noted, and dealt with.  Don't care about the motivation... or excuse. Who ever it was stepped into a minefield and won't get out easily. 

9- backing you all the way. 

Tango9
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 @Txazz  @StormR the best part is the dept chair liked the story I told about the student who came to my office in tears and then found herself with other students and realized she was actually the one teaching them.

 

It actually did more good than harm ;)

Tango9
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 @StormR It'll be handled.  Some folks just ain't very smart.

Txazz
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 @StormR  @Tango9 It is pathetic and pitiful isn't it.  To have a flame war or something is totally different taking it off the boards to the private sector.  I do pray 9, you whack this mole.

Tango9
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 @Allwet There's a few dumbasses lurking.  Someone tried to be clever.

Allwet
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I was going to add, that enough nasty little rooms splattered w/black and brown have been encountered during the course of the last several years, except they didn't belong to us, so no issue.WTF?They did catch a battle weary crew peeing on some dead bodies( that probably ran a good number of those little rooms in there, before they , umm,... got pee'd on).

Tango9
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OT:  someone here decided it would be fun to send one of my more colorful posts to my dept chair and some random faculty in the department.  Not sure what your intent was but my chair just laughed.  Not sure what you were trying to do forwarding a post where I said I had a great student.  Perhaps you thought my colorful language would affect the department or something.  Perhaps you missed the part where I mentioned the dept chair and I go back 15 years.  This was a mistake.

 

He wisely didn't give me your e-mail.... yet. 

 

You really shouldn't play with fire.

shagstar
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 @Tango9 

you gotta be fuk'n 9!

Tango9
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 @shagstar Nope.  Hadn't seen my boss (the dept chair) in since fall semester ended.  I roll by last night and he says "Hey Tango9!"  LOL  I was like what the fuck?

 

We laughed.  He said "yeah I went out to the site (he'd never been to SOFREP) and I saw it was all military and special operations people.... so I read the thread (this one) and didn't see anything other than a lot of cussin' (he doesn't cuss).... but nothing wrong that I could see... just wanted you to know someone is being a jerk."

 

Txazz
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 @TKW406  @StormR  @Tango9  @shagstar  @LauraKinCA Looka here - Arctic just posted this on the battle of the women's page -

 http://cmrlink.org/data/sites/85/CMRDocuments/CMR%20Special%20Report%20-%20January2013.pdf

TKW406
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 @StormR I was wondering where ya were! Thought I might have to DM you or something!  : )

 

 @Tango9  @shagstar  @LauraKinCA 

Txazz
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 @LauraKinCA  @Tango9  @TKW406 Probably archived so it doesn't show up on SOFREP Facebook which is a good move.  Thanks for checking that secret hidey hole out.  lol

LauraKinCA
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 @Txazz  @Tango9  @TKW406

 It's still there when I searched for "Algeria". I have had an article not show up in the main pages but it never really disappeared.

Txazz
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 @Recon6  @Txazz  @Tango9  @TKW406  @LauraKinCA Well, we did have some pretty wild convos going in it - Japanese skulls on tanks and I don't know what all.  Some really good stuff we were keeping up with in there.

Recon6
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@Txazz @Tango9 @TKW406 @LauraKinCA Tex, wtf??..6

Txazz
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 @Tango9  @TKW406  @LauraKinCA Are y'all aware our Algeria Hostages Thread disappeared?  Well, it did.

StormR
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 @TKW406  @Tango9  @shagstar  @LauraKinCA

 Did I hear 'naked guy running down the range'?    Geez, TKW, you KNOW that I'm gonna come running when you say that.

oldSquid
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 @Tango9  @TKW406

 pig farm.... nothing will be left but pig shit.

Julesy
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 @Tango9  @shagstar  @LauraKinCA  @TKW406 Love the Office Space reference. You get a 1000 internet points for that. lol

Tango9
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 @TKW406  @LauraKinCA hah! think so ;)

Tango9
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 @TKW406  @LauraKinCA Sanitized.

shagstar
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 @Tango9  @LauraKinCA  @TKW406 

there is a whole write-up on it over there

Tango9
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 @shagstar  @LauraKinCA  @TKW406 Don't want fakers dead.  I want them to spend years and years in federal pound me in the ass prison.

shagstar
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 @LauraKinCA  @Tango9  @TKW406 

did you hear about this stupid shit?  this was on TAH today

 

http://www.times-standard.com/rss/ci_22439755?source=rss

LauraKinCA
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 @shagstar  @Tango9  @TKW406

 You, I'm not worried about... others... a bit.

TKW406
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 @Tango9 Had to delete a little personal intel there.  Sorry.

 

 @shagstar @LauraKinCA 

shagstar
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 @LauraKinCA  @Tango9  @TKW406 

lol,,,now i'm hesitant too hit like now!  damn it L 

TKW406
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 @Tango9 Piece of cake.  We also have wood chippers!  We can go "Fargo" on this guy ass first and then bury him!

Tango9
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 @TKW406 30 feet.  cadaver dogs won't pick up the scent that deep.

shagstar
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 @TKW406  @Tango9 

i have the entire Gulf of Mexico 100yds from my front door!!  just saying

Tango9
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 @TKW406 There's a reason every Montana boy can run a backhoe. 

TKW406
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 @Tango9   Right on T.  Let's find this fucker & give 'em a good old fashioned Montana ass whoopin' !!!

Tango9
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 @shagstar  @LauraKinCA A price will be paid.  I don't forget.  I don't forgive.

 

I will be disproportionate.

TKW406
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 @Tango9  Plus, we haven't had any volunteers lately for runnin' naked down range.  I think this might be an opportunity!

 

 @shagstar  @LauraKinCA 

shagstar
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 @Tango9  @LauraKinCA 

yeah,,i hear ya but,,it's still a personal attack 

Tango9
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 @shagstar  @LauraKinCA I'll say this.  Having spent some time with Brandon last week, this is nada.  That poor guy has to weather so many shit storms and so much drama that it's unbelievable.

 

He does it with perfect professionalism and grace.  I couldn't.  He shared some of the nightmare he's putting up with now and I'd have 3 ulcers.  Fuckin' solid guy and I'm not saying that because he's my friend I'm saying it because he's a fuckin' solid guy.

shagstar
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 @LauraKinCA  @Tango9 

yep!!  some db's are simply stupid!

Tango9
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 @LauraKinCA Rounds out.

shagstar
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 @Tango9 

that's one thing about open forums,,nothing is safe on the internet.

Tango9
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 @shagstar When you actually sit back and think about the vast spectrum of just scary people that frequent/post/run this site.... and are connected to each other and others... it's just a bad plan overall to roll in and be a dick. 

shagstar
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 @Tango9 

most idiot's dont 9!  imho

Tango9
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 @shagstar I hazard the guess they didn't look before they leaped

shagstar
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 @Tango9 

with the amount of different talents we have on here,,,sucks to be whomever it is.

Tango9
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 @TKW406  @shagstar I've got a friend or two chomping at the bit for IP addresses and emails.  But I hope by posting this the idiot will get a clue.

Tango9
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 @shagstar I'm not worried about anything I've posted.  In fact I think all I've ever posted is how great our dept is, how we rock at teaching physics, and how much I love it.  So I think whoever this was stepped on a landmine.  

 

Big big mistake.

TKW406
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 @Tango9  You got a short list put together? 

 

@shagstar 

shagstar
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 @Tango9 

sigh,,,i had some big time blogger  from the east coast try that crap with me on farce book,,,,,fuk em

shagstar
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 @Tango9 oop's!!  i forgot to put kidding  after fuk'n  before 9!  my bad  yikes!

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