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Home » Op-Ed » Can Spec Ops Perform Their Jobs With Less Money and Training?

Can Spec Ops Perform Their Jobs With Less Money and Training?

by Nicholas Irving · February 7, 2013 · Posted In: Op-Ed
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With the proposed automatic spending cuts, or sequestration set to begin March 1, 2013, Leon Panetta was quoted saying, “These steps would seriously damage a fragile American economy and they would degrade our ability to respond to crisis precisely at a time of rising instability across the globe.”  This year, an approximate $46 billion reduction of spending will result in “a serious disruption in defense programs and a sharp decline in our military readiness,” Panetta also said.

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What is Sequestration?

Sequestration is a process of automatic, across-the-board spending reductions to meet or enforce certain budget policy goals. A sequestration was triggered by the Joint Committee’s when it was not able to achieve its goal originally scheduled to occur on January 2, 2013, to affect spending for the fiscal year 2013. However, legislation was enacted on January 2 that delayed this sequester until March 1, 2013 (American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012, P.L. 112-240).

With this sequestration/sequester looming in the near future, some of the cuts would impact the nations defense budget and would include the following:

  • Cutting back on Army training and maintenance
  • Shrinking naval operations
  • Reducing Air Force flying hours and weapons maintenance.

Our military, especially those who serve within the special operations community, understands that in order to get a job done to the level of proficiency our leaders expect, it takes tons and tons of specialized training.

A couple of years ago while I served as a sniper within the Ranger Regiment, training was something that the we thrived on and credit our lives and mission success to. I remember in some cases, my platoon spending days on the range, sleeping and eating at the range, and not leaving until we had a specific drill or task down to a science, no matter the conditions.

In order for us to conduct such training, we needed to have at our disposal an almost endless supply of ammunition, support, and maintenance. I’m sure that if it were not for the days, weeks, and sometimes months of continuous training, our men would not be able to perform half of the missions we are asked to carry out while deployed.

Take a look at the men who serve in the SEAL and SDV teams. How will the shrinking of naval operations affect their training cycle and combat efficiency?  With these proposed cuts, would the future generation of SEALs be able to perform and carry out and accomplish another bin Laden-type raid with a lack of training, ammunition, maintenance, etc.?

Cutting back on the military’s specialty training will only result in the degradation of our troops’ abilities to perform special tasks overseas, such as hostage rescue operations and clandestine HVT raids.  The Special Operations Community are great at what they do because they train to a high standard.  The extensive training may seem redundant to a policy maker, but it’s that very training that makes the US Special Operations Forces the absolute best in the world.

Facing the era of conflict that we live in today, cutting these funds would, in my opinion, only hurt the ongoing and future operations of our Spec Ops community.

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Nicholas Irving

Former US Army Ranger. I served my entire military career within the ranks of 3rd Ranger Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment. My career took off when I became a sniper. During my time as a sniper I earned the titles Sniper Team Leader, Master Sniper, and The Reaper. After honorably serving, I continued to perform my skill sets as a Private Military Contractor and soon lead to my own training school at HardShoot.

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plainolamerican88
plainolamerican88 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I got be honest bros. I think it's smoke and mirrors. Look at info on Rand Paul site it leads directly to the words used. It don't cut nothing it simply slows the growth of how much they are going to spend (still going to spend) in the future. By 3 cents on the dollar.

 

The politipukes in DC have got target marketing down to a science. Tell us ugly green wearing fire pissers NO beans, bullets or battle gear so we contact our (NON) reps and tell them no money ? No fighty.

 

They using the troops just like they are using much of the rest of the country. Divide and conquer or more apropos segregate and conquer.

majrod
majrod 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Don't know if anyone has seen the latest ref sequestration but Gen Ordierno says that if sequestration happens units deployed to afghanistan will have to stay 12 months or longer because of lack of funding to train replacements.

 

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/02/12/odierno-sequestration-would-extend-deployments.html?comp=7000023467962&rank=1

 

As I predicted this would apply to conventional units.  The Spec Ops guys are going to be able to fence their assets.

 

Not good news but may also be political grandstanding by the military.  I suspect it's BS because when you look at all the numbers the sequestration equals about $.03 of every dollar and i'd confidently bet a box of donuts we have that much waste in the military.  The Generals are just threatening the most important priorities to keep from having to cut anything.  Keep in mind I used to be against sequestration.  Since I've educated myself I believe the military is paying much more than entitlements and welfare programs but that doesn't justify in my mind not cutting. 

 

Note, the military is screaming but those buying votes are keeping quiet.  They want defense to fight their fight because the those buying voted don't want the American public to figure out what they are doing.  After sequestration we need to continue to address discretionary spending.

Txazz
Txazz 5pts

 @majrod Maj, I think this makes me feel better.  It is a shell game indeed as now Obama suddenly is pleading for the military.  That should be a clue.  He outdid himself this time.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50133673n

less horses and bayonets

majrod
majrod 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Txazz  Don't be fooled.  The Pres is using the military to fight any cuts to entitlement programs.  Let the military take point and slip in entitlements.  It's hard to argue for Obama phones right now given the economy.   

 

Obama let this sit for 18 months doing nothing and threatening a veto if he didn't get more taxes.  BTW, he's finally admitting sequestration was his idea.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bob-woodward-obamas-sequester-deal-changer/2013/02/22/c0b65b5e-7ce1-11e2-9a75-dab0201670da_print.html

 

Txazz
Txazz 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @majrod “Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid,” asserted Woodward. “They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Woodward-Obama-Not-Telling-Truth-on-Sequester/2013/02/23/id/491678?s=al&promo_code=128F8-1

 

I already knew it came from Obama but, at least here it is in print.

flhtse05
flhtse05 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Nick, thanks for joining the team here, have enjoyed your books and now your articles here, keep em coming and Thanks for Your Service!

tarditi
tarditi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

Sequestration was supposed to be such a threatening backstop that nobody would DARE approach it... but too many politicians and lobbyists just shrug it off and take the collective hit rather than actually cowboy up and cut some things that need cutting. It is the political equivalent of "mob mentality" where no individual can be blamed.

The overall damage to the military will be terrible. Family benefits, Veteran's benefits - everything.

The military, being full of patriots and professionals will shoulder the burden, as they always do, but we're doing them such a disservice this way - it was truly a coward's path they took to let the flat cuts take effect.

The result, of course, will be less overall readiness. Deadlined equipment, lack of funds to train effectively, and longer times to spin up reserve and guard units for activation.

 

We will simply bleed more in battle.

RoyZepeda
RoyZepeda 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Can Politicians Perform Their Jobs With Less Money ? 

William Johnston
William Johnston 5pts

Although that's a two-part question; less money and less training, the operative, driving part is training. All training involves spending money. Lowering the level of training has the direct effect of lowering the need for money. On the other hand, lowering the level of training has the inverse effect of raising the friendly death rate. If it is the mission of spec ops to kill people and break things in a highly effective manner,  with few losses of friendly personnel, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out how to answer the question.

JimChandler
JimChandler 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

If the military didn't WASTE so much money, there would be no problem.  Cut the waste and use that money for what is needed.  This from a retired MSgt.

NousDefions
NousDefions 5pts

 @JimChandler We had a very well trained Special Operations Force prior to the explosion in military spending in the post 9/11 years. There is an abundant amount of waste that occurs in all branches of defense and there is a culture that accepts it for what it is. I thought it was bad when I was in the Army, and I found it to be much worse when I contracted for the Air Force on an exponential scale. One of the abilities of SOF forces that makes them great is the ability to do more with less. First of all, I don't believe the SOF community is going to be hit as hard than the rest of the conventional forces where the bulk of the waste occurs. Secondly, however, I do believe that the waste must go and the fat must be cut.

oldSquid
oldSquid 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @JimChandler I can remember my Dad complaining about this. Every year aboard ship, as the new fiscal year was staring and budgets being determined, he would havee to order a s**tload of supplies the Ship really didn't need, because if they did not spend their whole budget, their next budget allotment would br cut by the amount not used...

JimChandler
JimChandler 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @oldSquid Yep.  Air Force was the same way, especially in the flying end.  "Training" (hour-building) time would be way down until about late August then they would miraculously find the funds to fly us like crazy.

Contagio
Contagio 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @oldSquid  @JimChandler Baseline budgeting.  Gotta love the gov't shell games.

oldSquid
oldSquid 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MedicSteve2

 a-h-h-h-... what's atrillion dollars among politicians.... ;-D

MedicSteve2
MedicSteve2 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Oops!!! Big finger/small iPhone typepad error. That reduction should read $43.9 Trillion

MedicSteve2
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@majrod @Contagio @oldSquid @JimChandler Exactly! Sequestration means-literally-that Entitlement spending will go from $$44.7 Trillion $(44,700,000,000,000) to $44.9 Trillion. I'm really not sure which pisses me of more: The politicians of either stripe who keep kicking this can down the road, the politicians of even lower intellect like Claire McCaskle, who claimed last week that we don't have a spending problem, or the media who will not report this issue with any shred of integrity. Instead, all we will hear about is how those trying to solve the problem are trying to take food out of the mouths of children and how we don't need so much in defense. Once these budget restricted training reductions start translating into more blood, who will be the ones to receive the blame?

majrod
majrod 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @Contagio  Baseline budgeting (automatically adding inflation) is a HUGE problem across the federal budget.  It eliminates Dept's having to strictly prioritize and justify their budgets.  It induces waste.

 

 

 

   @oldSquid  @JimChandler

 

JimChandler
JimChandler 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Contagio  @oldSquid  @JimChandler Roger that!

 

Reaper375
Reaper375 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @JimChandler 100% correct!

MattRM
MattRM 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

I wouldn't be too concerned as REAL cuts never come about.  The Senate can't even pass a budget.  They'll just keeping adding zeros to the end of the current numbers.

majrod
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BTW, A LOT happened today ref Panetta's and Dempsey's testimony on the hill.  Don't want to distract from this important story but they were ridiculous in their explanations for not doing anything militarily.

 

Dempsey was highly "surprised" the Hillary didn't know how bad securith was in Benghazi.

 

Panetta gave some riveting testimony on how uninvolved and absent the president (and sec state) where after 5PM.  (They were AWOL)

 

Then there's Brennan's testimony.  He needed sand for all the tap dancing he was doing.

 

Then that rogue cop in CA has all kinds of angles to it.  His manifesto is shocking in the allegations he makes and he rants for gun control while being an example of the nuts that plague us.

 

We live in "interesting times".

 

Like I said, I don't want to take this way off the current article but a lot of stuff happened today. 

MedicSteve2
MedicSteve2 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

@majrod agreed, Major. That was MOST interesting. Any serious calls in the media for accountability on that? I haven't seem much of the news coverage. I am waiting with baited breath for that, though....so, just drop me a quick shout if you see anything

majrod
majrod 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MedicSteve2  All this coverage is on C-Span and Fox from my perspective.  I'd be SHOCKED if the other channels picked up on it.  (If anybody sees some in depth coverage on other networks please pipe up)

 

I fear this will likely be the biggest criticism I'll have with Jack & Brandon's upcoming book.  I'm sense they will take Fox to task for any inaccuracies (which is the right thing to do) but will only provide mild general criticism of the lack of coverage by every other media source except for one reporter from ABC.

 

 

MedicSteve2
MedicSteve2 5pts

@majrod Solid copy! Close your eyes, Rod, and imagine the caterwauling that would drown out any other sound if GWB had allowed the same level of....efficacy in his admin.

oldSquid
oldSquid 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @majrod MAjrod, you said,"Panetta gave some riveting testimony on how uninvolved and absent the president (and sec state) where after 5PM.  (They were AWOL)"

uh-h... you have to be there in the FIRST place to then be AWOL....

 

Reaper375
Reaper375 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

 @majrod You're right, I've been keeping an eye on all the things that have been going on today, it's almost too much to cover in a day.  Everything from Benghazi to the rogue cop, and above $5 gas in California.  What interesting times we live in....

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @majrod  I was able to listen to part of the testimony this morning while having to go to an office about 1 1/2 hours away. I found Panetta's testimony unbelievable, much like Hillary's.  It was rehearsed. The thing that got to  me in the end, was the spanking he tried to give (rehearsed I'm sure) to Congress for sequestration. 

Contagio
Contagio 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @hjw1dr  @majrod I find it interesting how they all kept talking in the "...when we found out...." like it took the carrier pigeon forever to get there.....they saw it in REAL TIME. 

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Contagio  @hjw1dr  @majrod LMAO. 

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @hjw1dr  @majrod The bit on Brennan was interesting - neither side like the executive branch blowing them off.  Obama is going to be a lonely dude if he's not careful, especially when the economy gets tighter.

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts

 @CK5150  @dmalert  @MR151  @majrod  Man, you guys are funny!  Laugh... or I'd cry.  :)

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @dmalert  @CK5150  @hjw1dr  @MR151  @majrod

 Worst in my memory too, but we have had some really nasty politicians in our past. I just don't remember that the body as a whole was riding the train to our demise as they appear to be now.

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150  @hjw1dr  @MR151  @majrod This is the worst in my recollection, but historically no idea.

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @dmalert  @CK5150  @hjw1dr  @MR151  @majrod

 Trying to remember back in history if we had a Congress that was so generally looked down on. There have been their share of idiots, but the Congressional body as a whole??

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @CK5150  @hjw1dr  @MR151  @majrod Right and Congress is PT Barnum's ass clown circus.

CK5150
CK5150 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @MR151  @majrod aka larry, curly and moe.  

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @dmalert  @MR151  @majrod  Hagel - SOD , Kerry SOS, Brennan - CIC  ?  Have I got it?  Or am I still asleep?  

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @dmalert  @MR151  @majrod  LOL... okay.  I just have to laugh... I was half listening to the interviews. Only goes to show you I shouldn't try to opine on something I only half heard.   (laughing at myself) 

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @hjw1dr  @MR151  @majrod Brennan for CIA (nominee), Kerry at state and they're pushing Hagel at Sec Def. 

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @dmalert  @MR151  @majrod  Oops... yeah. You're right. It's Brennan for Defense- duh. Long day :)

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @hjw1dr  @MR151  @majrod Kerry is state - Sec Def not decided.

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @dmalert  @majrod  Will have to look it up on CSPAN... bet it's there. 

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MR151  @dmalert  @majrod  Vickers has got ot be disappointed he wasn't chosen to be Secretary of Defense. What is he going to do with Kerry? Stand by and clean up? 

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @hjw1dr  @majrod Need to watch more.

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MR151  @hjw1dr  @majrod 151 again not saying Brennan is bad - don't really know much about him other than the drone stuff.  My concern is executive branch tries to usurp power from legislative and judicial = dictator

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @dmalert  @majrod  Is he also going before the House? Seems there is more to learn about assets and admins role. But Boehner isn't exactly being assertive is he?

MR151
MR151 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @majrod

 Thanks. He seems like a pretty good guy, at least based on that info.

dmalert
dmalert 5pts

 @MR151  @hjw1dr  @majrod http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_G._Vickers

MR151
MR151 5pts

 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @majrod

 Who's Vickers?

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts

 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @majrod

 Always more hangers on where they come from.

dmalert
dmalert 5pts

 @MR151  @hjw1dr  @majrod 151 I don't think the issue per se is Brennan, but that the admin isn't keeping Congress in the loop.

dmalert
dmalert 5pts

 @MR151  @hjw1dr  @majrod How about Vickers?

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @hjw1dr  @majrod Didn't see the whole thing, but even the dems were pissed about the admin not keeping them in the loop and as MR said lots of tap dancing.  One of the Repubs said no confirms for anyone without Benghazi data.  Then there was the issue of legal opinions showing drone usage was on the up and up legally.

MR151
MR151 5pts

 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @majrod

 My impression of Brennan, albeit with no expertise on him is overall positive. Still wish Petreaus was there, but anyway...

hjw1dr
hjw1dr 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @dmalert  @majrod  I didn't hear Brennan. But sounds like he was pretty tough on the Admin? Also the drones... did he take heat for the use of them too?

dmalert
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 @majrod Well said Maj Rod - saw all this stuff today - not a whole lot of leadership going on.

CK5150
CK5150 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 9 Like

 @dmalert  @majrod Well, field marshall Bloomberg is leading.  He's now considering a ban on styrofoam products used for take out food, etc.  Awesome. 

oldSquid
oldSquid 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @dmalert  @LauraKinCA  @CK5150  @majrod hee-hee.. after you eat, you could smoke the pouch for sdessert....

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @CK5150  @dmalert  @majrod

 LOL, that's about the size of it. The SF Council did hold the line at public nudity in the courthouses and outside most days except for a few parade days :)

CK5150
CK5150 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @majrod I meant SF would brag about it, not you.  "We encourage pandering, solicitations by transgender hookers, other sorts of harrassment to visitors and San Franciscans, but we'll be damned if anyone is gonna take home their moo goo gai pan in a styrofoam container!"-SF city council.

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts

 @CK5150  @dmalert  @majrod

 Bragging about what? The styrafoam ban? I'm not. It's a pain in the ass most of the time.

oldSquid
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I have been biting my tongue, trying to maintain my composure after that comment about the *#&$^#@$ that must not be named... now I've got to go and get my tongue sewn back on...

CK5150
CK5150 5pts

 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @majrod that's nothing to brag about.  

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @majrod

 Well, you picked the doozy of a statement. May be more effective than you wanted though :)

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @majrod LOL sorry.  Was my way of saying the most offensive thing I could think of and the word "fuck" is maybe 1/1000th as offensive.

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @dmalert  @CK5150  @majrod

 Some other pressed paper crap. The ban isn't everywhere but it is expanding. So is the plastic bag ban and now there is the expanding pay for any bag to carry out your groceries, drug store, just about any store items.

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @majrod

 Just passing on fair warning... never say that name! Bad things happen around here <cue evil axe murder music>

dmalert
dmalert 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LauraKinCA  @CK5150  @majrod What do they use for take-out .  Hemp pouches?

LauraKinCA
LauraKinCA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @CK5150  @dmalert  @majrod

 CK, there is already a styrafoam ban in the SF area. NYC is behind the times!

dmalert
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 @LauraKinCA  @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @majrod Sorry that debt limit video got my blood boiling.  LOL

MR151
MR151 5pts

 @CK5150  @dmalert  @majrod

 Wouldn't doubt it.

hjw1dr
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 @LauraKinCA  @dmalert  @CK5150  @majrod  Yeah... I was whispering... Couldn't you tell?  (shhhh)

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 @dmalert  @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @majrod

 Hush about she who must not be named! Do you want to bring out the Barnes in 6?

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @CK5150  @majrod

 INCOMING!!

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 @Reaper375  @CK5150  @dmalert  @majrod

 groan

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 @hjw1dr  @dmalert  @CK5150  @majrod

 lol Not a Bloomberg fan. Miss his predecessor in NYC though.

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  @CK5150  @majrod  OH, don't even bring up Jane.  (oh, man... here it comes! )

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 @hjw1dr  @CK5150  @majrod As I said on a prior thread - I'm not flexible enough to goose step anymore.  Maybe Hanoi Jane can give me a few yoga lessons.

hjw1dr
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 @dmalert  @CK5150  @majrod  Herr Bloomberg thinks he can run for president--because he knows he's the best choice for you. 

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 @CK5150  @majrod Herr Bloomberg should be focusing on why NYC budget is going to pop, getting people employed and cutting down on insane pension plans.  And he shouldn't worry about people eating fattening food because at the rate he's going people won't be able to buy enough food.

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 @CK5150  @dmalert  @majrod Meantime in Colorado: Colorado Democrats want gun manufacturers held liable for crimes committed with their guns

hjw1dr
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 @CK5150  @dmalert  @majrod  Think about how much more sanitary it will be t carry out your chinese food in your reusable cloth carriers.... yummy!  :)

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 @CK5150  @dmalert  @majrod LOL

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