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Home » Op-Ed » Accountability Lost: Benghazi

Accountability Lost: Benghazi

by Brandon Webb · March 18, 2013 · Posted In: Op-Ed
Accountability Lost: Benghazi
The September 11th, 2012 attack on the State Department compound in Benghazi, Libya is important, and should be studied because in the big picture it represents a failed foreign policy that spans across both Bush and Obama Presidencies.

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America does not have a clear strategic objective when it comes to foreign diplomacy, and in fact our current foreign affairs are rife with hypocrisy. Two clear examples of this: we are supposedly in a “War on Terror,” yet we clandestinely support terrorists like MEK in Iran, and weapons transfers into Syria. The latter is sure to put weapons into Syria freedom fighters, some who are engaged under the al Qaeda flag. How long will it take for those weapons to be pointed back at US Special Ops forces?

In Libya, Gaddafi was known to be cooperating with the United States behind closed doors. One minute he’s a covert friend, and declared an enemy the next.

“Who in the current administration turned Gaddafi from green to red?”, a senior State Department official said to me. This question and many others still need to be asked.

What message do we send to emerging leaders looking for allies if we continue with our hypocrisy abroad? One minute America is your friend and the next we’re cheering from the sidelines, as your dead body is drug through the streets of Misrata.

The cloudy foreign policy strategy needs to be replaced with one that is clear, and holds firm to the values of the Constitution of the United States of America.

Benghazi is important because it demonstrates all that is wrong in Washington. New leadership is needed because the current usual suspects of the State Department are getting really good at avoiding responsibility and dodging consequences.

The game of political music chairs and finger pointing by career politicians and agency bureaucrats needs to end. Exemplary leadership has become a thing of the past, and needs to become a thing of the future.

As Jack Murphy and I point out in our e-book, Benghazi: The Definitive Report, we seek to name names and hold people accountable. We continue to do so, and it has become apparent in our investigation that the attack, and results achieved, were a result of the following:

  • An ambiguous foreign policy with no clear direction
  • Former Deputy National Security Advisor for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, John Brennan, conducting unilateral actions with regards to JSOC strikes against militia members. He is also tied to weapons transfers out of Libya, and we are learning that this may have included the use of Proxy Private Military Companies like MVM, and other.
  • A lack of de-confliction between Military, Agency (State, and CIA), and PMC groups with regards to covert actions on the ground in Libya.
  • Incompetent senior State Department leadership who enforced a policy of normalization and reduced security posture in the face of a rising threat level. Benghazi and Tripoli were both classified Critical/High threat by the State’s internal threat assessment document known as the SETL.

A name that has become synonymous with ineptness in many of my conversations with State Department officials is Patrick Kennedy. His is a name we should remember. Kennedy is the current Under Secretary of Management, or “M,” for the agency, also known to insiders as “Black Dragons.” It is well known inside the State Department that a Black Dragon is one of the most powerful positions inside the department.

Ironically, Kennedy was one of the key State Department officials trying to explain away unheeded security requests leading up to the 1998 Embassy bombings in Africa. Ambassador Bushnell sent requests for a year straight at her post in Kenya leading up to the attacks. The lack of security contributed to the deaths of 218 people, including 12 Americans when three near-simultaneous embassy bombs were detonated in Tanzania, Kenya and Nairobi, on August 7th, 1998.

It appears that Kennedy has become somewhat of an expert at explaining away incompetence and sidestepping responsibility in order to maintain his personal standing within the Department of State.

Officials Jack and I have spoken to inside State tell us that press leaks stating that individuals had been separated or resigned from the Department as a result of Benghazi could have only come from Kennedy. The press later learned this was not the case. As far as we know today, everyone associated with Benghazi remains gainfully employed by the Department of State. This seems like the wrong message to send Foreign Service personnel, but appears aligned with Kennedy’s leadership style.

One of the key elements associated with Benghazi is a State Department document called the SETL (Security, Environment, Threat, List). This document is used to determine threat levels at foreign facilities and what level of security is allocated. The four levels are Critical, High, Medium, and Low. Why wasn’t this document discussed or brought up during testimony by Congress or Kennedy? “Out of 264 countries, only 14 are ranked critical/high threat, and Tripoli and Benghazi are both on that list”, a senior State Department official told us.

We also know that Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens was keenly aware of the threat level in Libya. His very last journal entry, according to a source inside the State Department, hauntingly states, “Never ending security threats…” Interestingly enough, we have just learned that the Embassy in Tripoli was abandoned when Benghazi came under attack. Embassy staff retreated to a more secure CIA facility nearby. While their comrades and Ambassador were fighting for their lives in Benghazi, leadership at the Embassy in Tripoli were running to save their own lives.

What more information do we need to arrive at the conclusion that someone in the State Department was not doing their job? It’s clear to me that all roads lead to Kennedy.

Members of the House and Senate need to reflect on that fact that America’s current foreign policy is like a rudderless super tanker steaming dangerously towards the next collision in the night. This has to change or we will continue to see less and less American diplomatic influence in the World, and more hatred towards the United States. The current lack of strategy is stoking the fires of radicalism towards the US and its allies. We need to hold firm to our constitutional values, and not ignore them when it’s convenient.

It’s time for change, and a foreign policy strategy that makes sense, one that every American citizen can understand. The plan must also include a focus on terrorism prevention. Too long we’ve been in a game of whack-a-mole with regards to killing terrorists. It’s a game with no end unless we effect change within the social and political environments of the World that breed the terrorists of tomorrow. Ignore this and we will continue to prune the tree of radicalism without killing it at its core.

We need to continue to put pressure on Washington to hold those responsible for Benghazi accountable. Carrying on like business as usual will only lead to September 11th, Part Two, coming to a city near you. I don’t know about you, but I’d rather not see that episode.

 

(This article was previously published on TheBlaze.com, under the title “Former SEAL: Time to ‘Name Names and Hold People Accountable’”)

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Brandon Webb

Brandon Webb is a former U.S. Navy SEAL with combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the Middle East. His last tour in the SEAL Teams was as the Course Manager for the US Navy SEAL Sniper program, arguably one of the most difficult sniper courses in the world. He was formerly a contributing editor for Military.com, and currently the Editor-in-Chief of SOFREP.com. Brandon is regularly featured in the media as a subject matter expert on military affairs. An avid writer, his last two books (The Red Circle, & Benghazi: The Definitive Report) both hit the New York Times best seller list, and his writing has been featured in print, and digital media worldwide. You can follow him on Twitter @BrandontWebb

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GeorgeGamard
GeorgeGamard 5pts

@PatriotOfAKind Bet his Gym coach called him, Cantstandya.

lookupfolks
lookupfolks 5pts

@PatriotOfAKind We need answers on #Benghazi, and it won't go away

wadea1974
wadea1974 5pts

Everyone in the high up places needs to read this ass chewin!!!! givim hell nasty webb!

jeffreycarr
jeffreycarr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Good article, Brandon. Way to keep the pressure on.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
AUNITEDPEOPLE 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Just heard on Fox News, from the House committee chair (R), that the House and Senate are comparing info on Bengazi trying to figure out what questions still need to be answered and that 'we' should have a better idea in a few more weeks, exactly what went on that night. Not holding my breath for that one!

One thing he did say that I didn't like much, was when Bret Baier asked him if the survivors will be subpenaed and the House chair said that he didn't like to use that power unless it absolutely warranted... What??? I mean I know that it doesn't answer the questions about how the WH reacted, but I still think they should get to speak their minds about the whole affair.


snookasnoo
snookasnoo 5pts

@AUNITEDPEOPLE Fox News is for fools and idiots.

SEAN SPOONTS
SEAN SPOONTS 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Thw@snookasnoo @snookasnoo @AUNITEDPEOPLE @snookasnoo @AUNITEDPEOPLE. Hey troll. The inpatient desk over at Moveon.org says you have to be back for your meds by five or no Rachel Maddow for you for a week.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
AUNITEDPEOPLE 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@snookasnoo Oh a drive-by, nice... 

Question asked, answer given, just sharing the info not drinking the Kool-Aid, so just calm down and move along.

Sonnys Mom
Sonnys Mom 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

It's the little things that give them away... Like John Liveshot Kerry's 2010 purchase of a $7 million yacht, which he had built outside the US, at a time when people are desperate for work. Once delivered, the "Isabel" was initially tied up in Rhode Island in order to avoid Massachusetts taxes, which as of last year he still hadn't completely paid off.  Until the public got wise...

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/john-kerry-still-owes-taxes-on-his-7-million-yacht/

So why would we expect anything that even remotely looks like honesty or accountability now that he's SoS?

snookasnoo
snookasnoo 5pts

@Sonnys Mom this has what to do with Benghazi? Oh....nothing.

Txazz
Txazz 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

Don't see this posted already - contents of Hillary's hacked emails 

Hillary Clinton's 'hacked' Benghazi emails: FULL RELEASE  (March 20, 2013)

Below are 4 letters dating from September 12, 2012-February 16, 2013. Any omissions are unintentional, as we are publishing all of the information that has been provided to us in the interest of full disclosure.

http://rt.com/usa/complete-emails-guccifer-clinton-554/


jeffreycarr
jeffreycarr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

@Txazz It's most likely bullshit. I can't tell you how many times I've found manipulated emails in document dumps posted by hackers. In this case, they don't even provide the original content which is almost unheard of. So the liklihood for these being real is extremely low.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
AUNITEDPEOPLE 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

@jeffreycarr @Txazz Damn, thanks! I've obviously not been communicating the same thoughts correctly!

Txazz
Txazz 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

@AUNITEDPEOPLE @jeffreycarr @Txazz Another give-away is info published by RT, Russian Times.  Reminds me of the last dis-information dump - Hillary's plane crash!

AUNITEDPEOPLE
AUNITEDPEOPLE 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

@Txazz Well, the biggest problem I have with all of this hacker G stuff is not the comical way he/she posts stuff, I don't have a problem with that, it's a personal thing I know, but I do have a problem with the fact that none of the header information is posted along with the content. Just the fact that this information has been left out is making me more and more suspicious of these emails. Also, these supposed inter-government emails do not seem to have the formal, properly formatted information in them. All in all, I am growing more skeptical of this supposed 'hack'.

Sonnys Mom
Sonnys Mom 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@AUNITEDPEOPLE @Txazz  Thanks, I was looking for these! Posting header info would put someone's head on the chopping block, fer sure... As it is, based on intel described in the emails, a number of informants may already be in danger, depending on how closely held the information they supplied was.

snookasnoo
snookasnoo 5pts

@Sonnys Mom @AUNITEDPEOPLE @Txazz no. It wouldn't.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
AUNITEDPEOPLE 5pts

@Sonnys Mom  @Txazz You're kidding, right? Do you think that the hacker had any concern for anyone involved? Really?

Sonnys Mom
Sonnys Mom 5pts

@AUNITEDPEOPLE@Sonnys Mom@TxazzAnd the Arab Spring was, after all, a great advancement for human rights. Silly me, how could I forget?  OF COURSE no one would ever be falsely implicated by innocent-looking little scraps of information like an email header!

AUNITEDPEOPLE
AUNITEDPEOPLE 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Sonnys Mom  @Txazz Email header information is just like a digital receipt for the email. It doesn't expose anything that would harm anyone, just IP information, mail format type, time stamps, etc. If true, the actual info in the emails is much more dangerous, the header info just gives legitimacy to the hackers claims. 

LauraKinCA
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@AUNITEDPEOPLE @Txazz  My understanding from reading that first article MajRod posted was that the hacker copied out the content of the emails into another document so that embedded user information wouldn't transfer to the copies. So it wouldn't look like the original anyway... if this is true and not a hoax anyway.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
AUNITEDPEOPLE 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@LauraKinCA  @Txazz  I know what the person did, and I can appreciate that, but the header information of the emails has nothing to do with being able to track said hacker. The header information is crucial in verifying the validity of the source information. Plus, there is still the formatting issues for official communications that still bothers me. To be totally honest, armed with a little bit of  background information, pretty much anyone could make such claims. 


Just look at the stuff wikileaks posts and you will see a dramatic difference in formatting and the way matters are discussed.

usapatriotonthemove
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Oh man, great article.  I read this stuff and sometimes I wonder if the enemy is correct, when they say the things they do about us?  The "common" people are way out of the loop on this stuff and don't know any better, as covert operations seemingly work us against each other?  "What message do we send to emerging leaders looking for allies if we continue  with our hypocrisy abroad?" Yeah, no chit.  I wouldn't want to partner with us either?  I understand it's a complicated world, but where does it all end?  How much is enough?  I just watched part of a BBC documentary about how Pakistan "played" us with the T-ban.  It got me pissed off, then I thought...well, we do the same to others don't we?  Who runs this country?  The three letter Org's? Does the C&C know about everything going on? And if it all goes bad, I guess no one is to blame, as we've come to find out.  Grrrrr.....They just write it off and walk away.  At least SOFREP will further educate us as to our governments inner workings, which   I'm sure you guys will take some heat for, just hang tight, because you're doing it's citizen's a great service. 

Thanks Guys, well done as always.

majrod
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off topic but important...

 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/dad-this-picture-of-my-son-holding-a-gun-triggered-a-visit-from-nj-police-family-services/

 

INCREDIBLE story.  Cops come to your house with child services and without a warrant demanding you to open your gun safe, show your weapons to ensure they are properly "registered" (registration is optional in this state) and when denied permission threaten you that they'll get a search warrant and even take your children away.  Why?  Because Dad, a licensed and highly trained law abiding gun owner took a picture of his son holding a rifle and posted it on Facebook.

 

Police would not talk.  Child services wouldn;t even give a name and eventually hung up.

 

Yeah, we have nothing to worry about

Sonnys Mom
Sonnys Mom 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@majrod Like Michael Savage says, liberalism is a mental disorder. And clearly the folks in that NJ "family services" office have all come down with liberal overheated brain syndrome...

snookasnoo
snookasnoo 5pts

@Sonnys Mom @majrod Michael savage is a jack ass and so is anyone who listens to his drivel.

dickftr
dickftr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@majrod   Common Core education curriculum , school board meeting  was cordial. I found out it is instilled already in OK. I'm not ready to take on the state legislature and the govenor.  Dang I'm in over my head. I'll try to find like minded support. Thanks Maj,    Dick

whooop's off topic

majrod
majrod 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@dickftr @majrod Finding "like minds" is key.  Educating parents may also help.  I hazard to guess most don't know what is being taught and the pros and cons.  Good luck.  Fighting city hall can be daunting.

nojoy_waitout
nojoy_waitout 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

@majrod What if she wanted to set up that man ? A pro con women artist ?Could that be possible ?

If she doesnt have a warrant, she has no rights to even talk to that guy. 

AUNITEDPEOPLE
AUNITEDPEOPLE 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@majrod Stupidity and superiority all rolled into one = Child services (in a lot of cases)

And, "Shawn’s son is also someone who has been certified by the state of New Jersey. In order for a person under the age of 18 to go hunting in New Jersey, they must be accompanied by a parent or adult supervisor, and they must also pass a state firearms hunter safety test. The young Mr. Moore passed the test and his father was NOT his instructor." Was the best part, so him even holding the rifle was quite legal!


Yeah, "move along citizens, nothing to see here..."

engelbrad
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@majrod Looking at the picture and considering recent events you had to see that coming... I wouldn't hit "panic" yet. The assult weapons ban was dropped from the senate gun control bill and I think that is an indication of public pressure. (keep a careful eye on D. Feinkenstein)... This is out of context but not at all surprising.

Txazz
Txazz 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @engelbrad  @majrod Had been keeping up with the Gun Control and all these issues breaking - sure wanted to see some conversation here at REP on it all.  I was so proud of the CO Sheriff.  What a great idea - pizzas.

StormR
StormR 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

@engelbrad  The 'assault weapons and ammo' restriction bills introduced in my State Legislature failed to get enough support to even get through a committee and are now dead.

majrod
majrod 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @engelbrad  I got you and i'm not in panic mode.  Far from it.  I'm just showing what the anti 2A folks behave WITHOUT more laws. 

 

Consider my post ammo for you to share some liberal anti 2A dunce tells you you're being paranoid and have nothing to fear from the gov't.

 

majrod
majrod 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

 @engelbrad  FTR, I don't panic.  I return aimed fire...

 

KineticFury
KineticFury 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

@engelbrad @majrod

Ratified December 15, 1791, the "Bill of Rights."

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

AMENDMENT XIV

Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

engelbrad
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@KineticFury @engelbrad  @majrod 

Your missing all the foot prints on the document.

KineticFury
KineticFury 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

@majrod and people wonder why I don't have a Facebook...

Tango9
Tango9 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

@KineticFury @majrod me either.  trashed it 6 months ago.  Two words:  Ghostery and Anonomyx..  Use Firefox.

Tango9
Tango9 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@majrod @Tango9 Hah... and wouldn't you know it the Lt I spoke to made me an offer.  Now after all these years you'd think I'd be immune to recruiting speeches, but dangit if he didn't convince me to fill out an application.


I'm so stupid.  We'll see what happens.

Tango9
Tango9 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

@majrod @Tango9 Our county sheriff told them to go fuck off (well, he used slightly different words).  I'm buying the whole crew pizza for lunch.  have to split up the deliveries for the shifts... But it's the least I can do.


Our County LE is top shelf.  Good people. Ranchers, cowboys.  Love 'em

majrod
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 @Tango9  I feel for you bro.  This insanity in Colorado shocked the heck out of me.  I hope you can take the state back.

 

Tango9
Tango9 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

It's "anonymox"  misspelled it.

Tango9
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@majrod @Tango9 @KineticFury I heard you 5x5.  I've talked with J... TOR is the best but Laaaaaag.  Anonomyx is much better.  Ghostery is the shit.


And yes, I plan on rolling by Sheriff Maketa's office next week with pizzas for the whole crew.  If I can feed 90 students for finals I can feed 80 deputies lunch.

majrod
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 @Tango9  @KineticFury

 Me three!

 

@tango remember when I was cautioning you about saying what you have/do in the blog.  Big brother is reading.  (BTW, saw how a bunch of Colorado LEO said the upcoming laws are unenforceable, good news but it's always best to be cautious.) 

SEAN SPOONTS
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I hope the next move for Brandon and Murph is to get some of the survivors of that attack to come forward and give their accounts.  They are being threatened right now by the government with national security violations to keep them quiet.  Congress should subpoena all of them and get them on the record under oath, including testimony regarding the threats and intimidation leveled against them by people at State.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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@SEAN SPOONTS

That would be an excellent thing to happen, but highly doubtful since even the Congress can't get a hold of these men and women. I'd also say that it's more than them being threatened, but them actually being sequestered, not that it's any conciliation. Brandon and Jack are doing great work, but I doubt they will have the resources to overcome this blockade.

In my humble opinion, the survivors are the thing that this administration fears most, in that they know the real truth of what happened and also, probably some of them also have operational knowledge of what was actually going on at the consulate and probably, a bit knowledge of what the CIA was doing in that area as well.

Just like the security feeds and the drone footage, the administration will hold on to all they can, until someone presses the issue to the extreme, probably at some sort of legal/justice level. And that will probably be long enough for most Americans to have forgotten, or more apathetic, to not even care.

Txazz
Txazz 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @AUNITEDPEOPLE  Hey A, Don't write BW and Jack off so quick;y - they have lots of resources - they know ppl who know ppl.  Even quiet professionals like to talk among their own and who more than them want the truth to come out.

Txazz
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 @AUNITEDPEOPLE Without a doubt survivors have been threatened 'cause if the WH openly threatens reporters . . . and, to date not even Congress has pried them loose.  Ah, along comes a hacker.  lol

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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@Txazz I'm not writing anyone off as I have seen what they can do with their resources, I'm just saying that eventually you will hit that brick wall. They may have already had contact with some of them, who knows, but BW and JM also know that these peoples lives could be on the line if certain things got 'leaked', so there is that. But I am still of the firm belief that the survivors are being held close by the admin.

majrod
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 @AUNITEDPEOPLE  @SEAN SPOONTS  You know I doubt survivors are going to add more to what we already know (we know State ignored requests for help and the threat).  What the fear is, is living faces reciting the terror and confirming what we already know will be too much for the media to ignore.

 

What we don't know aren't things that happened in Benghazi (though America should hear more about the valor of those that gave their lives) but what didn't happen at State, the White House, AfFRICOM and what happened to cover up the lack of action subsequently.  

 

SEAN SPOONTS
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I don't believe any Congressional investigation into what happened in Benghazi could be called complete without interviewing the eye witnesses to those events.  Their accounts form a interwoven narrative not only of that night but of the events leading up to that attack.  It's important.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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@majrod  @SEAN SPOONTS  This is true about the faces of what happened that night, which would further show the true bravery of those that sacrificed all that night. Although I will say that even if/when we do hear from these people, that we will never know what we were doing there (OPSEC and all).

So, to address your point, yeah, getting the story from those that survived might not glean any knowledge of the 'why' they were there, but it would most surely be a slap in the face of the admin, in that, it would show the lack of support and leadership in the face of a real threat.

And just to be straight, I don't want them tromped out on talk shows, but I do expect that in the least, that Congress should have access to them.

engelbrad
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@SEAN SPOONTS I think some representitives are trying to do that. It needs to happen. I'm also guessing more leaks will be heading soon to a theatre near you. The one great thing about having clowns in DC is that cover ups never end well for the circus. Pressure is a key to failure for the stupid. We have pressure here and it has teeth. Patience and proactive non-tolerance will season this dish well. 

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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@engelbrad @SEAN SPOONTS Yes, some will push and more should join them, and thank God for the ones that do. I just hope it's not too little too late to be a jolt to the American people, so they can see what the fruit of the tree of lies looks like.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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@engelbrad  @SEAN SPOONTS Agreed!

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@AUNITEDPEOPLE @engelbrad @SEAN SPOONTS The only easy day was yesterday. It's not just for SEAL's.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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@engelbrad  @SEAN SPOONTS  I agree 100%, just a hard row to hoe, but it is our duty as Americans. So I'm all in!

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@AUNITEDPEOPLE @engelbrad @SEAN SPOONTS It's not too late. It's our responsibility! Go time!

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