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Home » Special Operations » An American Freedom Fighter in the Libyan Civil War: Part 2

An American Freedom Fighter in the Libyan Civil War: Part 2

by Jack Murphy · March 5, 2012 · Posted In: Special Operations
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In part 1 of this series we covered the exploits of Matthew VanDyke, an American Georgetown grad who traveled to Libya to join his friends and participate in the armed rebellion against Gaddafi’s 40+ year dictatorship.  In part 2, Matt told me about the circumstances of his capture by the Libyan military.

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“On March 12 I went with three other rebels on a reconnaissance mission to Brega. Ra’s Lanuf had just fallen to Gaddafi’s forces a couple of days before, and Brega would be attacked next.  We did not think that Gaddafi would move so quickly after taking Ra’s Lanuf and thought we had a few days before Brega would be attacked. The plan was to recon the city, identify defensive positions, and then return to Benghazi to gather more men and weapons before going back to Brega to help defend it.

On March 13, during the reconnaissance mission, we were ambushed by Gaddafi’s forces. I was struck in the head during the ambush and woke up in a prison cell to the sound of a man being tortured in a room above me. I have no memory of the ambush or what happened to the men I was with. One minute we were talking to some locals in the street who served us coffee and I took their picture, and the next thing I remember was regaining consciousness for a few seconds with my hands and legs tightly bound and me being carried, and then I woke up in the prison cell.

I had what may have been a flash of memory about the ambush return to me during my first few days in prison, but cannot be 100% sure if it was a real memory or a dream. But I believe it is a memory.”

This is a difficult question, but do you want to go on the record regarding the mistreatment you received while you were held prisoner by the Libyan military?

“I wasn’t held as a prisoner by Gaddafi’s military for long. I was interrogated once, and then transferred to the custody of Libya’s Internal Security Agency and placed in Maktab al-Nasser Prison.  I had video footage on me that showed me working as rebel and was captured with other rebels in a truck with a DShK mounted in the back and a RPG.

They didn’t need to ask me any more questions after the first interrogation.  The reason they didn’t need to ask me any more questions after the first interrogation was because of the video footage, not because they got anything out of me.  I never confessed to being a rebel fighter.

The interrogator accused me of being CIA or Mossad, which I denied.  The reason they likely didn’t need to interrogate me again was because the video footage was better than any confession I could have given.  I would never have had this footage with me if I thought we were in any danger of being captured in Brega during the recon mission (it would have been left in Benghazi when going to the front lines to fight).

I endured severe psychological torture in the form of solitary confinement. I was never told what I was formally accused of or if I would ever be released. I simply ceased to exist. The guards did not know who I was. I was in a 4×7 foot dark cell with a small skylight and nothing to read or do except stare at the wall. I was let out of the cell 3 times a day to use the bathroom. I was given food 3 times a day. After 30 days I was given a bucket to wash with. After some weeks the guards started allowing me to walk back and forth in the locked off hallway some during meal times for my health, because I had become unsteady on my feet.

I was not physically mistreated.”

(As the war continued to escalate, the rebels advanced on Tripoli and Matt was freed by other escaping prisoners.  He had been held captive for 165 days.  Hanging out in Tripoli, he linked back up with his friends and continued to fight with the rebels until they had sorted out Gaddafi and won the war.)

You mentioned on your website that you were nearby when Gaddafi was killed. I’ve been told privately that he had a PSD made up of former South African soldiers. Can you confirm who they were and elaborate on how Gaddafi met his fate?

“I’m aware of these stories but I have no first hand knowledge of who was with Gaddafi when he was killed. I was in Sirte but not at the scene when Gaddafi was killed. He was killed by fighters from Misrata (the West), and I was serving mostly on the East front lines. As for how Gaddafi met his fate, we’ve all seen the video. Other than that and what the press has reported, I don’t know anything else because I wasn’t at the scene when he was killed.”

(I also wanted to ask Matt about Western influence on the Libyan Civil War, including his own.)

I’m going to ask this question straight up because I know many others will be asking it in the future. At any time while fighting in Libya were you in the employ of any governmental organization?

“If you mean the United States or other non-Libyan government, no. After I escaped from prison and returned to the front lines I joined the Ali Hassan al-Jaber Brigade of the National Liberation Army of Libya, which was under the control of the National Transitional Council (the new Libyan government). I was issued a military ID and was entitled to payment by the Libyan government like any other soldier in the National Liberation Army. But I never accepted this or any payment for my military service.”

While in Libya did you come in contact with any western soldiers or contractors working operationally on the ground?

“None, other than the private security advisors for some of the larger media outlets like Reuters who accompany journalists.”

We often hear information, misinformation, and disinformation all at the same time as Americans. From your experience, what is it the rebels in Libya really hoped to achieve? Were these goals accomplished or did the toppling of Gaddafi just create a vacuum to be filled by religious extremists?

“The rebels wanted to overthrow the regime. In addition to the human rights abuses, imprisonment, disappearances, and executions carried out by the regime, Libyans were fully aware of how ineffective, inept, and corrupt a leader Gaddafi was. They knew that with their oil wealth, small population, and proximity to Europe that Libya should look far more like Dubai.

The goals of the rebels were simply freedom and democratic governance.

The goals were accomplished. There will be elections, and Libya will surely develop into a successful, peaceful, democratic country. It may take some time, however, after 42 years of authoritarian rule, to establish a stable, democratic country.  I predict that by the end of 2012 Libya will be well on its way to becoming the envy of the Arab world.

Religious extremists don’t have much power in Libya. They never have and never will. Even some of the former Libyan Islamic Fighting Group members want a democratic government, and likely realize that they can win elections playing within the system. And they should be welcome to participate in the electoral process, it is up to Libyans now to determine their future using the ballot box in a free and open system.”

Stick around for part 3 of this series with American freedom fighter Matthew VanDyke, where he explains the improvised weapons used by the Libyan rebels and rates the various rifles, machine guns, and grenade launchers that they had or captured from Gaddafi’s forces.  Matt will also explain how he feels about the future of Libya.  You can find Matt at his blog and freedom fighting, and also on Twitter and Facebook.

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Taskforcegreen
Taskforcegreen 5pts

I think it would be great if our civilians went and showed our support against the dictator's follow-on goons that are taking over. It would show a lot on our part, and I KNOW FOR A FACT that Navy SEALs wouldn't mind going on their own time. In fact, I have been living in SD, CA inside the NAVSPECWAR community and would love to get contact info on any of the journalists going over (email me! Rohdrunner@hotmail.com). I am a writer and would love to help in any way I can. 

Mattyred
Mattyred 5pts

I'm not buying for one second that he went over there on his own accord with no Gov. backing, he was imprisioned and treated better than anyone else when in fact he probably would have been tortured, sold or ransomed to various Muslim groups. He's holding an F2000 with optics, suppressor and a 40mm GL (all ITAR restricted). Lastly Georgetown is in the heart of DC and about an hour away from Quantico, that's just too many coincidence's. He was probably an asset on the ground to ensure weapon supply lines and provide real-time intel for whoever his handlers were. Of course he will never admit that and will stick to his guns, I'm not saying he shouldn't have been there or that he did anything wrong, I'm pretty sure he had a positive affect on the battle-space, hence the end result. Being in the same city as Gaddaffi when he was killed but on the different front offers just enough oversight but allows for deniability of direct action. I wish they would stop pretending that we're stupid.

chuckflint
chuckflint 5pts

What about Kony 2012, opinions on the US role?

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior 5pts

Jack thats a major league look from the inside out. Great interview, great imagery.

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ArcticWarrior Standby for Part Three and a mini-documentary...

gunslinger6
gunslinger6 5pts

Great write up jack keep them coming

Old PH2
Old PH2 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I can remember being in Venezuela in the 80's made some good friends.  I never thought a left wing, nearly Cuban, government would form there either.  None of us can see the future.  But we can prepare, best not to burn any bridges.  Maybe we don't want to be too heavy handed in our dealings with the new powers that be.  But we also don't want to encourage behavior that will permit an enclave for extremists.  A north African Dubai would be nice to see.  I recall that Tunisia was kind of heading that way before the "Spring."  Non representative government is always a target for freedom loving peoples.  

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old PH2

 And we need patience. Jeffersonian Democracies dont just mature overnight. Kind of like free elections in IQ, sometimes the guy we like isnt what the voting population wants and vice versa, or in the extreme, Lebanon where the populace voted in the Iranians choice.

LCpl X
LCpl X 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

"I was not physically mistreated.” *** Were his other colleagues physically mistreated, why was he not physically mistreated?

 

"Religious extremists don’t have much power in Libya. They never have and never  will." *** What does he think of the Muslim Brotherhood in Libya, now being billed as the most organized party and most well funded?

 

Great interview, Jack. Kudos!!!

 

 

Tango9
Tango9 5pts

 @LCpl X "I was not physically mistreated.” *** Were his other colleagues physically mistreated, why was he not physically mistreated? Read more: http://sofrep.com/4340/an-american-freedom-fighter-in-the-libyan-civil-war-part-2/#ixzz1oNXnErm0

 

That's like asking why an elephant didn't run into my house today.  There's no possible answer:  it just didn't happen.

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Tango9  @LCpl X His colleagues were most likely executed.  Matt can provide better answers of course, but there was no need for the guards to force a confession since he had a video footage on his person when he was captured that showed him fighting alongside the rebels. 

LCpl X
LCpl X 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @LCpl X

 I'm sure you're mind is at it's most imaginative and creative when all you're doing is pissing, pooping and eating. Admiral Stockdale's life was defined by his imprisonment and he gave the best talks through out the Marine Corps in the 1990s, it touched so many Marines (about fighting for the moral high ground) that my Capt. who was a mustang, gave us all books written by Admiral Stockdale, "Thoughts of a Philosophical Pilot" and "Courage under Fire".

 

I'm sure it wasn't just my former Capt. who was influenced by this man, because every Marine I've met, former and current, have talked about Stockdale's philosophies, Stoicism Stockdale style just fits the Marine Corps.

 

If you look at the current blogger/facebook/twitter generation, VanDyke being one of them, cuz I'm sure he recorded his exploits (like so many of us these days) to tweet it or post it on youtube, etc. no philosophy, if there is it's about taking a video of me or taking a picture of me, me, me... Stockdale is almost lost now, but I'm sure his speaking tours in the 1990s helped us win the moral high ground in these current wars. So, a Stockdale type book would be more interesting, than any other war books that's come of late.

LCpl X
LCpl X 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Tango9

 LOL!

 

I was thinking along the lines of Admiral Stockdale's books and articles, but an updated version for the facebook/twitter/blog generation:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stockdale

Tango9
Tango9 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LCpl X  @JackMurphyRGR That book would read:  "I stared at a wall.  I peed.  I ate crap food.  Rinse, repeat."

LCpl X
LCpl X 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @JackMurphyRGR 

Well after the Sinjar raid, DoD dealt directly with Libya and prior to that CIA played the rendition game with Libya.

 

It'd be interesting if the guys who got him actually had had relations with JSOC, DoD, CIA, etc. hence the otherwise better treatment. And also, whether at that point these Libyan security type guys were still hoping the good relations with the west would return after this upstart rebellion was crushed. 

 

I'm sure he can write a whole book with just his prison time alone. Very interesting.

Tango9
Tango9 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @JackMurphyRGR  @LCpl X I'm sure they recognized he was western, and therefore might be valuable.  You don't want to be the idiot that mangles the potential high value prisoner. 

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