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Home » Black Ops & Intel » Area 18: Secret Training Site for American Sponsored Terrorist Group, MEK

Area 18: Secret Training Site for American Sponsored Terrorist Group, MEK

by Jack Murphy · April 27, 2012 · Posted In: Black Ops & Intel, Special Operations
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LAS VEGAS – The contractors who run the Nevada National Security Site, formerly the Nevada Test Site, have been scrambling to find new missions to keep the facility alive. And with its wide open spaces and secure borders, it’s the perfect place for covert training.

But how would taxpayers feel about using public dollars to train foreign insurgents, including some who are officially considered to be terrorists?

It’s never really clear how these things can turn out, and sometimes such operations can backfire. For example, in the mid-80s, America trained and armed Afghan rebels to fight against the Russian army. Those same Afghans later joined the Taliban and have used the training we gave them to kill American soldiers.

Nationally known journalist Seymour Hersh reported this month that the U.S. government paid to train Iranian provocateurs, presumably to cause trouble for the current government of Iran. But it turns out the government considers these guys to be terrorists.

The test site has emerged in recent years as a top training facility for all sorts of classified programs, including special ops teams and anti-terror units, and it appears foreign operatives are part of the mix.

“The first units of the MEK to show up in Nevada in late 04, early 05, and it was months and months of training,” investigative reporter Seymour Hersh said.

The Pulitzer Prize winning reporter broke the story in early April, alleging that a rabidly anti-Iranian faction known as the Mujahedeen e-Khalq, or MEK, was at Area 12 on the test site for months of special forces training. Area 12 has been used many times as a base for sensitive operations, including training for the agents who guard American nuclear bombs. It has barracks and facilities to house scores of troops, or in this case, insurgents.

According to Hersh, the training focused on high-tech communications tactics, the kind that involves spy drones, as well as explosives training and enhanced interrogation techniques, which might explain why Nevada saw so many flights of so-called rendition planes during the same period.

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WyldDarkHeart
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@LauraWalkerKC THanks!

katgirl231
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I will be able to get some good frame grabs from the news video and will post them when I have some time.

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Jack I know its off topic but whats with this, any info as to if its completely true? Is Russia actively operating in OEF-A? I keep hearing its true.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XFgcch0MaXA

JackMurphyRGR
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 @ArcticWarrior I'm beyond skeptical...

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JackMurphyRGR
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 @ACS I think if you look at the high level technology transfers that took place between the US and the Soviet Union, then in the 80's and 90's with China, you could certainly see one of the objectives as being about the maintenance of strategic tension in certain parts of the world.

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katgirl231
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 @KineticFury I would like to read it - thank you for the recommendation.  He had to not only have courage, but a tremendous love for his people and what his country could have been like to leave a place and potential job in CA and go back to a post revolutionary Iran, survive the threat and stress for years and be able to come back.  Amazing. 

KineticFury
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 @katgirl231 you should read "A Time to Betray" by "Reza Kahlili" (alias). He's Iranian who was raised in Iran, went to school in Cali, and went back during the revolution, and a friend landed him a computer job with the revolutionary guard - after a while he couldn't take what he saw going on there so he made a visit to the states to contact the CIA - he did, and kept sending information to them for years til he moved back to the West.

katgirl231
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 @ArcticWarrior  @ACS You read my mind with what I was thinking about.  The Shah was a dictator but I do think he was trying to bring Iran into the 20th century with a lot of resistance.

ArcticWarrior
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 @ACS  

No prob..hey we all have those 'net brain cramps. Me it looks like I cant spell and have bad grammar to which I blame my phones autocorrect

 

ArcticWarrior
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 @ACS  @ArcticWarrior

 Straits of Hormuz the body of water of Iran's coast. 20% of the worlds oil transits through the straits, its ridiculously narrow, like 20 miles across at one point.

 

http://www.insideofiran.org/en/images/stories/march11/womrights/Strait_of_Hormuz_map.jpg

ArcticWarrior
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 @ACS

 Wow, you think the economy sucks now? The speculators on Wall St would have gas over $10 a gallon. The Straits would be shut at least temporarily, in fact the Navy may even sustain some heavy damage as well as merchant ships. Saudi Arabia would probably be attacked as well as Israel dragging them into it, Iraq would probably break down into full blown civil war again between Shia and Sunni, It would be a Battle Royal for a bit and after the dust settled who knows what we would end up with. Iran is a hard game to read.

Sadly at one time we were good friends with Iran, but we screwed that up with the Shah. We dont learn.

ArcticWarrior
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 @ACS  @JackMurphyRGR  @ArcticWarrior

 They are in the process of making them but somehow,wink wink, they keep running into problems like scientists being gunned down, computer viruses corrupting the equipment etc. Thats where the MEK Cultists Jack wrote about training here in the US come in. We train these Iraninan terrorists to play there game back home, kind of like what we did with the Muj in the 80s to play ball against th Soviets in Afghanistan.

I think its inevitable Iran gets one.

ArcticWarrior
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 @ACS  @ArcticWarrior  @JackMurphyRGR

 Im not the expert here on the murky underworld, thats Jacks forte, but I would think once Iran gets a bomb, and I think they will, they might be more inclined to use it as a big stick to throw weight around regionally, which would cause The Kingdom to want one and bingo you get a regional Nuke Arms race.

Now for them using one, Im not so sure, once you drop that shoe its game over.

They have a sort of Republic/Theocracy based system, Ahmadinejad answers to the Supreme Leader,Khamenei as well as the Guardian Council so when he blusters its not always in line with the power players behind the scenes. In fact  Ahmadinejad has been admonished in public by the Guardian Council so his powers appear to be waning. But its Iran, the next guy may be a bigger fruitcake.

To me Pakistan is a problem they have up to 110 nuclear weapons, in a country run over by Jihadists, where loyaties are still tribal. As for now the Pak Military says they have complete control over said weapons, but they also said they didnt know where the Sheik was the last 10 years before we found him jacking off to Penthouse Forum in The town of Abbottabad. Politics means we rarely pay attention to Pakistan even though material aide flows into Afghanistan to the Talibs so they can shoot at us and then run back over the border with impunity. So you see its a tricky Diplomatic situation for all the players.

As a side note Dear Leaders son Great Successor in the DPRK says they will test another Nuke next week. But I suppose no oil so we dont smack them down.

JackMurphyRGR
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 @ACS  @ArcticWarrior  @JackMurphyRGR Neither are close to have a nuclear weapon at this time.

ArcticWarrior
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 @ACS  @JackMurphyRGR

 I am more concerned with say Jihadists in PAK getting ahold of an active nuke and yet nobody ever likes to talk about that one, I mean they already have a bunch, Iran is "developing" one.

And hear all along I thought the MEK was just some jihaddy cult in Iraq.

JackMurphyRGR
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 @ACS  @JackMurphyRGR I don't think so, not in this case.  I think that Iran in a thorn in the side of some people who want a certain level of standardization in Eurasia.  Iran isn't on board with the game plan, hence the constant rhetoric, "Something has to be done about Iran."  Not that I'm a big fan of the Iranian government but there are smarter ways to go about this.  I'm also not a big fan of Zbigniew Brzezinski but I agree with some of his recent statements that we can oppose Iranian nuclear weapons development in other ways and that even if they did get a nuclear bomb it isn't the catastrophic situation that people think it is.  The fear that they would actually use it is perpetuated by people who pray on a certain alarmist mindset and of course Israel doesn't like this either and for some legitimate reasons.  Having a nuclear weapon, or nuclear power with the ability to at some point down the line build one, would give Iran more clout in the international arena.  For instance, "something has to be done about Iran" is a statement that would be a non-starter if they had a nuclear weapon.

ArcticWarrior
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http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/22/terrorist_group_s_supporters_throw_party_in_us_congress?hidecomments=yes

ArcticWarrior
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I found this after spending a few hours researching MEK, seems the same old players are involved.

 

 Just take a quick look around Wikipedia, Forbes, and OpenSecrets.org, and here is what you will find:

Tom Ridge has his own security consultancy (Ridge Global, LLC) and lobbying firm (Ridge Policy Group).  He chairs the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s national security task force and sits on the boards of at least one military contractor (TechRadium, Inc.) and one company (Geospatial Corporation) that serves the oil and gas industry.Francis Fragos Townsend chairs an industry association for intelligence contractors (the Intelligence and National Security Alliance) and is the head of lobbying for a holding company (MacAndrews & Forbes Holdings Inc.) that owns the military contractor AM General.  Rudolph Giuliani has a security consulting firm (Giuliani Partners) and is a partner in a law firm with prominent oil and gas and lobbying practices (Bracewell & Giuliani).  He used to own a private equity fund that teamed up with Bear Stearns to invest in security companies.Louis Freeh has a security and investigations consulting firm (Freeh Group International Solutions, LLC) and a law firm (Freeh Sporkin & Sullivan, LLP), where he represents, among other clients, a Saudi prince in a bribery investigation involving an arms deal.Hugh Shelton has served on the boards of directors of several military contractors, such as L-3 Communications, CACI International, Inc., and Protective Products of America, Inc.Bolton, Mukasey, Rendell, and Dean are affiliated with major law firms whose clients include not just standard military contractors but many other more mundane corporations, as expert Nick Turse has shown, also benefit from military largesse.  (Bolton is also affiliated with several pro-war think tanks.)

JackMurphyRGR
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 @ArcticWarrior I had a lot of respect for Shelton, I'm sorry to see he is wound up in this stupidity.  That's a good example of an elite network right there, these guys wouldn't all be speaking out for MEK, a State Dept. listed terrorist group, unless they got word from up high that this was part of the game plan and played into a larger national security strategy.

ArcticWarrior
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 @JackMurphyRGR

 Speechless after looking into this stuff. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

katgirl231
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I'm speechless and it makes me sad enough to want to cry.  btw - it's very easy to have projects which not even security knows anything about.  Not part of the org chart.  One badge to get in the main place and as far as anyone knows, you're just another employee and a separate building with it's own sometimes double layered fence run by a completely different company with its own security and the second badge can be shown to no one else.  If it has its own road and airstrip, you're as good as gold.  The secretarial staff would probably not be told what clearance they have or it's a different company altogether.  Old Howard Hughes was an expert at that.  Nice how they learn how to properly mix in the diesel into the big drums and better operate Barretts - bet it gets folk like the Cechnyans get to share the knowledge really quickly.  I can see the big drums go into a truck to be parked in busy streets, embassies, etc.  probably with hydrogen cylinders mixed liberally in.  I'm depressed.  What good short term goal is worth that.  Then the bad guys get double the information war material by showing it the the average populace.

ColonelProp
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Hmmmm - now that is an interesting "coincidence". Rendition planes...didn't somebody just release more of those locations? Gotta go root...

PatrickM
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As if the Military fighting for us doesn't have it tough enough,lets start a minor league terror training camp.This just seems to make zero sense.

JackMurphyRGR
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The interesting thing here is that SOCOM didn't say "no comment" they said, nope, we've got nothing to do with this.  The news report hints that the contractors doing the training may have been given the JSOC but as a cover story.  If true, I'm sure the Army is thrilled with that.  I hope it is true though, and would like to think that JSOC/SOCOM has more sense than this.

jasons77
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 @JackMurphyRGR hey jack isn't the mek the same group the cia paid 3 million dollars too when they sent dalton's delta team into afghan to locate ubl?

JackMurphyRGR
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 @jasons77 No, MEK is a Iranian terrorist group that fought on Iraq's side during the Iran-Iraq War.  I don't think they were mixed up in Afghanistan to any significant degree.

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior 5pts

 @jasons77  @JackMurphyRGR  @BrandonWebb

 IDK I live there and hadnt heard or seen anything like that. Other than YPG ( FT H isnt big enough) and Im tight with 2 people who work there not even a whisper of that, so I think not.

jasons77
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 @ArcticWarrior  @JackMurphyRGR  @BrandonWebb agreed. it's funny when you hear policiticans yack about the economy and border security etc.... and yet these are the moron's who are the problem. i heard a rumor that 20k nato troops are runing drills in southern az?  anybody know what's up with that?

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior 5pts

 @jasons77  @JackMurphyRGR  @BrandonWebb

 Reality TV is the shiny distraction. Seeing how its our Senate Majority leaders home state, we need to add Harry Reid to the list of dickwads repeating historys failures.

jasons77
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 @JackMurphyRGR @ArcticWarrior @BrandonWebb  thanks for clearing that up. on to the subject of bought corrupt politicians please read the link provided.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/08/mek-lobbying_n_913233.html

sickens me that americans are more concerned with crap reality tv then whats going on, until it's too late then they care.

ArcticWarrior
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 @JackMurphyRGR

 We repeat this mistake over and over. Have to wonder does anybody read History or even pay attention to recent History?

JackMurphyRGR
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 @ArcticWarrior The Havard-Princeton-Yale crew in our government is pretty oblivious to history if you ask me.

TFrasher
TFrasher 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @JackMurphyRGR it's not ignorance, it's hubris; that crowd thinks they can succeed in a fundamentally flawed situation.

ArcticWarrior
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 @JackMurphyRGR

 Thats why what you guys do with sories like this is important.

JackMurphyRGR
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 @ArcticWarrior Mainstream media outlets are bought and paid for. 

ArcticWarrior
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 @JackMurphyRGR

 Jack what kills me is that no major network gets out there and tells the populace "Our Govt is doing it again", this story is always page 6 or local news type stuff. it should be major news.

ArcticWarrior
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Yeah not too far in the future our kids will be fighting these guys........

BrandonWebb
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I spoke about this on Fox news a few weeks back. -BW

ArcticWarrior
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 @BrandonWebb

 And I see the lead Pony for this was that tool Tom Ridge

 

Former Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge is among the three dozen or so American politicians who accepted big money from MEK supporters to say nice things about the group. Calls for comment from Ridge were not returned

 

JackMurphyRGR
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 @ArcticWarrior  @BrandonWebb Don't forget about rudy giuliani...

ArcticWarrior
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Mr 9/11. Another tool. That guy is a closet facist.

Riceball
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Someone remind, why are we still doing this? Yeah, I know, enemy of my enemy and all but more often than not the enemy of our enemy winds up becoming our enemy. Does nobody in our government look further out than the immediate future when making these kinds of decisions or are those people too low on the totem pole to be heard or have their opinion matter?

ArcticWarrior
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 @Riceball

 We dont ever seem to learn from our own mistakes do we? Our own worst enemy.

LCpl X
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Another bad idea.

ArcticWarrior
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 @LCpl X

 The people responsible for this should be publically outed

OPR
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 @ArcticWarrior Pretty sure that would include Obama, so no chance of that happening. No way in hell this went on without his explicit orders.

LCpl X
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 @OPR  

 

Don't play politics with this one, bro.

 

It's a big historical shit sandwich (the same shit sandwich as a matter of fact) that the same Agency takes a bite off of again and again, regardless of who's in office--Iran-Contra, Dewey Clarridge's ops, etc..

ArcticWarrior
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 @OPR

 And the guy before him, the program started up there around 2005. The current group we have, R, D, whatever, its all the same. They only care about themselves, getting re-elected and using the Mil as a tool to achieve what they want.

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