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Home » SOF News » Lions Lead By Lambs: Washington’s Special Operations Power Grab

Lions Lead By Lambs: Washington’s Special Operations Power Grab

by Brandon Webb · July 12, 2012 · Posted In: SOF News, Special Operations
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Occasionally I’ll read something that will just make me pause and say “WTF, over”. Today was one of those days, thanks to Linda Robinson and her weak Congressional testimony.

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The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

Special Operations is the new conventional force in the 21st Century. The entire DOD organization has shifted towards a Special Operations centric model.

This brings both good, bad and ugly to US SOCOM.

  • The Good: increased funding and special programs.
  • The Bad: political piggy backing on the community and installing “oversight” committees that put too much weight on the branches of the Spec Ops decision tree.
  • The Ugly: ugly career politicians jockeying for power

Washington’s Special Operations power grab is no surprise to me. The ugly career politicians are jockeying for power and influence over SOCOM. It’s what career politicians do. They trade favors to stay in power (when they’re not voting themselves another raise). They do this by exerting control over process and funding.

Death by Political Committee

Enter Linda Robinson, a self-proclaimed expert on the Special Operations community. In her testimony before the House Committee on Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, Linda Robinson details how U.S. Special Operations Forces can be restructured to better confront emerging challenges.

I have nothing against Linda. She’s obviously very intelligent, not a very good writer (I can’t stand people who use “look at me” vocabulary words) and not on solid ground opining about the Special Operations community.

This is my personal opinion, you decide for yourself.

I don’t care how many hours you stand alongside a doctor in the operating room, it doesn’t make you a doctor and comes nowhere near experiencing what it’s like to hold life and death and the responsibility of it all in your own hands. Sorry Linda, and shame on whoever brought you in to testify before the herd of lambs.

In her testimony, Linda Robinson says:

Is she serious? The fact she says this openly is pretty revealing with regards to her own confidence in presenting her non-expert suggestions on how to restructure Special Operations” – Brandon

“You have my full bio, but I would like to note that I have spent 27 years reporting on and researching conflicts, and in the past 13 years my research has included a great deal of time in the field and at headquarters with special operations forces at all echelons…”

“…Chairman Thornberry, Ranking Member Langevin, and members of the subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before this distinguished panel. The purpose of my testimony is to provide thoughts on the future of U.S. Special Operations Forces to include recent initiatives being considered by U.S. Special Operations Command and the Department of Defense.

“We can’t conduct the hit sir, that’s not in our standard procedure manual“… – Brandon

One is a policy issue: I believe that an established standard procedure for systematically weighing the costs and benefits of employing unilateral raids or strikes via unmanned drones could improve viability of….” – Linda Robinson

What Does The Future Hold For U.S. Special Operations?

Decision by committee. You’re witnessing the death of a thousand cuts by lamb politicians trying to grab onto the straps of the Special Operations community. We call them “strap hangers” where I come from.

Let it continue to happen and we will ultimately leave our Special Operations community without teeth. I’m not arguing that their shouldn’t be oversight and accountability for the community, there is an existing chain of command. What I’m saying is that whoever called this lady before the House of Representatives to give her weak ass testimony has a self-serving agenda. There are problems when you don’t let experts do their jobs, especially when it comes to lambs trying to lead lions.

I’m in the process of writing a series for SOFREP that covers the shift towards a US Special Operations Defense model, and how it’s affected Washington and the usual suspects. I will also share my thoughts on what I think we need to do to ensure that we don’t take the “Special” out of Spec Operations.

This is important because the more rules we put into the Warfighter’s ruck, the heavier and less focused he/she becomes. This makes it easier for our enemies to use our own rules against us.

We are fighting an enemy and evil ideology that has no borders and no committee oversight.

Time to start getting real people. Thanks for taking a look.

Brandon

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Brandon Webb is a former U.S. Navy SEAL with combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the Middle East. His last tour in the SEAL Teams was as the Course Manager for the US Navy SEAL Sniper program, arguably one of the most difficult sniper courses in the world. He was formerly a contributing editor for Military.com, and currently the Editor-in-Chief of SOFREP.com. Brandon is regularly featured in the media as a subject matter expert on military affairs. An avid writer, his last two books (The Red Circle, & Benghazi: The Definitive Report) both hit the New York Times best seller list, and his writing has been featured in print, and digital media worldwide. You can follow him on Twitter @BrandontWebb

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PatrickM
PatrickM 5pts

SEAL 76 is on to something maybe bring these politicians in for some fun and games Spec Ops style.. Do a little force on force with simunition until they are a mass of purple bruises. Then get em in the sand for SEAL fun and games...Then they can all go home and cry to momma about how mean you are and how they will never play with you again..Hell with any luck they may not show up for work for a month or 3

SEAL76
SEAL76 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

WTF? Where does this bitch get off telling congress or anyone else how SpecOps forces are best utilized. God, please keep the experts away from our troops. Congressional oversight crippled the CIA. If they get a hold of SpcOps we are doomed. When Big Army etc. gets involved with SpecOps the funding may increase but interference increases exponentially. Save us from f'ing bureaucrats. Maybe they'll design a new camo outfit for representatives, senators and bureaucrats so they can accompany our men into the field. Hunter orange might be nice.

ClownPatrol
ClownPatrol 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

There is nothing more disconcerting than political people and their pet projects.    If there is important work to be done, why must clowns appear out of the woodwork to "facilitate" solutions by creating drama and getting everyone to polish their  apple.  Real problem solverers  know that their work can be very unglamorous, tedious and unappreciated (mush less rewarded or even noticed),   There really is no place for parties, Powerpoint diversions or Abe Lincoln speeches.  Los Angeles is on the brink of financial collapse and what do the politicians do?  They ban plastic shopping bags.  Rome is burning.......Let's consider Al Gore: he managed to completely discredit the Global Warming movement with his buffoonish political presence and now who knows what is true?  Don't forget his bored housewife, Tipper.  She tried to save  our kids from rap lyrics. Did we ask the Gore's for help?  Incredibly the character shortcomings of some of our leaders would preclude them from serving in the military units they see fit to ruin.  

DCR375
DCR375 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ClownPatrol The self anointed "elite", who have attended all the right schools, spoken the right words, met and kissed the ass of all the "right" people. They studied, and focused grouped, and through their academic wisdom, all that ails the world, society, et al, shall have guidance, resolution, and direction from on high. I truly think that we, as a nation, and society, have forgotten that education and intelligence are two different animals. I won't even try and address ability. I also find, and I'm not trying to start shitezen with anyone, the "10,000 hr" expert qualification is the fruit of shitbags who had a hell of an education, but lacked the attitude and aptitude to be expert on anything other than perennial academic. Problem is, most every politico or septic, I mean "think" tanker, is educated well beyond their intellect, and they offer regulatory or advisory shackles for professions/trades/skill sets they've no experience or ability in. Just my two cents.

cto1321
cto1321 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I wonder how the politicians would react if every shooter in SOCOM/JSOC decided they'd had enough of the idiots on the hill being jackasses and went on strike.(I know we're not allowed too, but damn I'm sure the freak out session on the hill would be hilarious)

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

 @cto1321 Funny and all but for civies like me, that's an "Armageddon"-type scenario. I know that you're NOT advocating it, so I want to be clear in stating that. That is just short of a military coup and so again, terrifying.

PatrickM
PatrickM 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

hey i have read all the Dick Couch books and Red Circle and American Sniper,plus a few others.. CAN I BE IN CHARGE. Politicians make me sick sometimes.. But really I will read every book just let me be in charge

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @PatrickM Ok well, if BW ain't running I'll give you shot. My ballot will read "PatrickM of SOFREP.com community". I can see the "WTF?" looks on their faces now. If I had two votes like they do in Illinois (just kidding) I would...

Recon6
Recon6 moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @PatrickM Politicians make me Sick All the time.

RVN SF VET
RVN SF VET 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

This is SOP for Washington. This woman is a dynamo who has mastered the obscure language of the think tanks and the language that generals and flag officers like to have written for them. Look at who she has "advised" and where she lecturers and holds seminars:

 

"Ms. Robinson was senior adviser to U.S. Central Command's Afghanistan-Pakistan Center and has provided strategic analysis, studies and concepts on defense, diplomacy, and counterinsurgency as an expert consultant. She is serving a three-year appointment to the U.S. Army War College Board of Visitors and is a frequent lecturer domestically and internationally at civilian and military educational institutions and policy conferences."

 

She has done what so many commenters have said. She is a brilliant straphanger who has listened to what operators and staffers have said and compiled these interviews and observations into both books and studies. She has mastered Washington speak and snows those who also have no direct experience in or knowledge of the subject. Ironically, many of the things that she advocates have merit; but the language she uses is off-puting to those who actually practice the art.

 

But we had better be careful because she is not going away and she is advocating a centralized command structure with lines to both the Congress and the Executive Branch in DC. Well, we already have people like her in the White House (of any party) and in the Pentagon who insert themselves into the decision-making process. Tchnology makes this possible. You want to take a shot or support a tactic General Dostum wants to employ, well wait a minute or an hour while civilians and underemployed colonels on one staff or another agonize over it. But don't worry, they can see exactly what the situation is by looking at the drone pictures on their computer screens. And you can forget about OPSEC.

 

There was a time when you were inserted into Laos and you only checked-in weekly or monthly. Your commo was often restricted to resupply requests and SITREPS and you weren't seeking permission for each action. Of course, you also weren't getting the benefit of national intelligence. assets. Those days are gone and Washington is looking over your shoulder. This is after you gave your PowerPoint 33 slide pre-mission presentation seeking approval for a direct action mission.which report to regional conventional commands and/or SOCOM. She is advocating more general officer billets - oh goody! And, she is seeking more money for SOF in a constrained budget environment. Meanwhile, people like Odierno are trying to marry conventional and SOF forces on missions so that these conventional forces can retain their funding.

 

In the end, it is all about money and centralized control in pursuit of national policy - of course. Oh, and don't forget to expand your forces by lowering standards.

BrandonWebb
BrandonWebb moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @RVN SF VET Well said. Nothing like getting outside of the wire without having to check in for a couple of days....

JShepard
JShepard 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Did she stay at a Holiday Inn Express?  It is always good to preface what I call  academic" knowledge vs. real knowledge to make sure everyone knows the academic knowledge is learned, but not necessarily correct.  To do a task is to know a task.  Academic knowledge can provide insight into an issue, but in the end is nothing more than an assumption.  Congress always thinks they know everyone's job better than the people doing it.  They're not going to ask they real experts, because you're not going to tell them what they want to hear.  So they get a author to talk to them, pretty much like network news shows.  They're going to ride on your back to the top, or stab you in the back and crawl over you to get where they want to be.  I see it all they time with elected officials sponsoring stuff that's not really useful, but gets passed through here anyway for evaluation.  Except most of the stuff won't (directly) get you guys killed.

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

 @JShepard Scary ain't it...

NelsonJr
NelsonJr 5pts

It;s pretty sad that people do NOT understand the concept that it will take at least 10,000 hours DOING a specific task before you're considered an expert. Reading books, reports etc makes you knowledgeable on topics that REAL experts (hopefully) have decided to share. Anything you get out of that is interpretation of these facts.

 

The only thing that makes this lady "special" is that she should be riding a short bus to these hearings...

ArcticWarrior
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 @NelsonJr

 Look at the German High Command in WWII. Lots of very bright strategic and tactical thinkers with experience in WWI. They gave us such progressive ideas as the blitz, paratroopers, shock troops, guided missles etc. But Uncle Adolph and his friends all thought that because they rubbed shoulders with Jodl, Rommel etc that they knew better. There were many reasons for their loss but Institutional meddling is a chapter in that book, and many in DC havent the experience or read that chapter in History. S-FUS in DC.

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ArcticWarrior  @NelsonJr Two words wrap up Hitler's own "Military Genius": Operation Barbarossa. He stopped listening to his generals or "Lions" and thank God for that.

IronMike76
IronMike76 5pts

Theoretically at least, the military is still answerable to "we the people." I'm not opposed to the theory. Still trying to decide what role the notorious CFR has in determining overall military strategy and - if it does play a role - why are journalists being allowed access to such. Ultimately, though, our marching orders (sans the specifics) are approved or disapproved by politicians representing the people. Always been that way, as it should be. As "rogue" as SF likes to see itself, it isn't. But that doesn't mean SF is for public consumption either. I believe the biggest challenges to date are the upwardly-mobile, politically-motivated hacks at the Pentagon.

 

Robinson's CV isn't a "bad" one necessarily.

 

http://www.cfr.org/experts/national-security-middle-east-south-asia-special-operations/linda-robinson/b2140

PONI
PONI 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

The future of Special operations is going to be the same as it's always been. The only difference will be with the spotlight comes more bureaucracy. Politicians have always piggybacked on the backs of special operations men and women when things go right. Those are the "MY boys went in and kicked ass..." comments that make sofrep readers go purple when they're said on the nightly news. Then they always been the first to grab the torches and rope to hang somebody if something goes wrong, "It's HIS fault!" which again pisses most of us off to no end. What this whole system of being special operations minded is going to do is throw big army politics on top of the most experienced operators in the world. Result of that, mass exodus of anyone who knows what the hell their doing. Result of that exodus, the special operations mission is corrupted. Special ops will be misused just like the Rangers were in 2006(ish) in Afghanistan. Not wanting to step on any Rangers toes there, just saying Rangers aren't supposed to be policemen.

The whole situation is just plain FUBAR.

Or maybe I'm just wrong.

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Totally predictable isnt it. Pols want to ride on the coat tails of a special group of peoples hard work, blood and sweat. They love it when they can associate themselves with anything SO, especially after Geronimo with its still photos of Politicians and their theatrical reactions, and worse for days after every Pol on the Armed Services Com giving us the take on it. My gosh would Overlord even be possible today?

Look at the Navys Submarine fleet as an example. Those badboys are cutting edge high tech. We can use them in a variety of ways. We can let them be seen momentarily off your coast and then they disappear, but you got the message. We dont say where they are and keep everyone guessing. We use them for SIGINT of the highest degrees. They bring the ultimate hammer to someones backyard and park, you want to play the MAD game? Didnt think so. They can transport SEALs silently in the night. Now in no way am I saying its the same thing, boots on the ground is what ultimately does it, But the Navy never talks Subs for OPSEC, the Pols dont talk about all the Intel grabs Subs have done,the major intimidation factor, they arent sexy, they dont get voters attention and there is no cool underwater video graphics to show on the 24/7 news cycle. So the public knows nothing about the Sub fleet, theres no political market for it.

Only person I want to see on the Hill talking capabilities and future METL is Gen Stan. If someone like McChrystal talks, I'll listen, otherwise save your "full spectrum" BS, STFU and stay out.

Recon6
Recon6 moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ArcticWarrior   Damn AW, I sure Wish we could have served together in my LRRP units !  I admire today's LRS, but Rock'n the Nam with You in Indian Country would have been Fuck'n  A  with me!  Always look forward to your comments as you JDAM the Nail every Time.   Good stuff bro... R6

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Recon6

 Brother, while I appreciate the sentiment and would have loved to run with you guys, I would never presume myself on that level. You guys were legends, and my heroes, and I enlisted because of all the LRRP books and stories I read.

 The next gen will look at BW and Jack Murphy and say I read there books and thats why I enlisted. America, we are flawed, but I have faith in the future generations of fighting men and women, the Institutions still work. However our politicians and political Institutions I have zero faith in.

Recon6
Recon6 moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ArcticWarrior   Brothers All my friend.

ColonelProp
ColonelProp 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Not shocking - politicians love the limelight. What should be happening is the political class should be setting the broad requirements - say go neutralize this threat, within this said amount of time...let the experts run the details. Can't wait to see SOCOM do earned value charts every month - this ties right into Jack's article about increased grad rates. That was sarcasm - sadly this is the creep when bean-counters get involved in the minutia of programs, it has ruined many a good company and will ruin SF unless it is crushed. Central detail control does not work.

dm8471
dm8471 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

Mr. Webb, I feel you hit the nail on the head when you said:

 

  "I don’t care how many hours you stand alongside a doctor in the operating room, it doesn’t make you a doctor and comes nowhere near experiencing what it’s like to hold life and death and the responsibility of it all in your own hands."

 

I read Master's of Chaos when I was 13 going on 14 and it got me interested in SF and the SOF community as whole. However, the fact that she spent her career talking to experts of a certain field doesn't make her one herself and this is rampant with almost all 'journalists' in the MSM. The fact that so many reporters portray themselves as subject matter experts of what ever the subject matter is they're reporting on speaks to how poorly read and dellusional they are as a 'profession'. The sad thing is these ignorant fucks are the ones driving the political discussions in this country and everyone wonders why our society is so goddamn dysfunctional and rife with partisanship...

KineticFury
KineticFury 5pts

Well pardon me, your worshipfulness, but we don't need you to make a lousy attempt at padding your résumé.

 

 

jrexilius
jrexilius moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Standard M.O. for politicians and most people love their 15 minutes of fame.  Color me surprised on this.

 

As others have said, this just sucks..

PatrickM
PatrickM 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Sorry to say I saw this coming. Fricking politicians just love to gloom on to something that is hugely successful and that the public loves,aka SEALS/SPECIAL FORCES. As a guy you has never been there done that,I have a problem with Non Spec Operators making decisions that cost YOUR LIVES.. Like the line in Dogs of War,"you coming along ?then you don't need to know"..Since you guys are the Military Surgical Scalpel ,then it should be in the hands of Special Operations. I am sorry but Politicians seem to F up everything they touch.So for them to have anything to do with Special Operations besides an occasional photo op.. plain SUCKS.Some of these political hacks cant spell SPEC OPS

kevinnash69
kevinnash69 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

im guessing that she hasnt spent a day in the military and hasnt participated in a special operations op. all these "experts" are books worms that never have held a gun. all politicians are the same they send young men to war without knowing the true consequences of war.

Ben K
Ben K 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Hence the need for a few more good SOCOM people in the star ranks - really, it should be them testifying before Congress on this sort of information and not some random whiz kid.  Seems like the way things are done in DC though, in spite of the fact that the Pentagon is a stone's throw away.

FormerSFMedic
FormerSFMedic moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

"Special Operations is the new conventional force in the 21st century". Not likely. Conventional military is the conventional force of the 21st century.

BrandonWebb
BrandonWebb moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @FormerSFMedic I respectfully disagree. Look at the command structure and the decision matrix, we are becoming less "Special" everyday.

MedicSteve2
MedicSteve2 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Roger that.  I read "Masters of Chaos", Linda Robinson's book on the post-Vietnam SF dynamic, and there are some great 'take-aways" in it, but they come from interviews with shooters and those individuals who shaped them, NOT from Robinson's expert distillation of the issues involved.  Here's an example of what I mean:  she interviews the history teacher of Randy, a SF CWO who was on the recruiting posters ( I remember clearly the poster.  I was an ROTC scholarship guy and had the poster in my dorm room circa 1985).  This history teacher instills in Randy that what separates a warrior from the rest of society "is his capacity to absorb the physical and emotional hurt of others".  I thought that was a great line, and it's now part of my boys collection of motivators.  But, I know very experienced shooters who wouldn't claim to be experts in the community. 

 

When my nephew first became an 18D, one of the remarkable things he said was how amazing everyone around him was and how much of a "weak link" he felt.  This is a kid who got 2nd in the State Track Champs in pole vault HIS FIRST YEAR vaulting, won a track scholarship to a West Coast university in PV, was top 3 in the AZ state wrestling tournament at 145lbs (we have a lot of cauliflower ear in in my family), and was National Honor Society in high school.  So, no slouch!  He tells me:  "when we go on a run, I'm the slowest.  When we hit the range, I've got the worst pattern.  When we hit the wieght room, I'm throwing up the least amount of weight.  Whatever we do, I'm the weakest link.  Bringing your "A Game" won't cut it.  I've got to find something else everyday just to be there."

 

The difference is humility.  Robinson lack of it is apparent, and it reminds me of the contrast in a black belt ceremony.  I've got about a year and a half to go to get mine in Shotokan, and it's the third art I've studied after growing up in wrestling.  In all, there's a somewhat deflating announcement I've heard more than one sensei tell a new black belt.  My sensei in Shotokan tells a new BB, "Now, you are ready to BEGIN your learning of karate."   What society thinks is expert qualifications are just keys to entry within a given community where merit, skill, and accomplishment are found through discipline, dedication, and lots of pain.

kevinnash69
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 @FormerSFMedic

 idk about that....today an m-4 is more usefull than a tank. we arent figting hordes of german tanks nor japanese dive bombers. it seems that the "scapel" is more effective than the "hammer"

Tango9
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This is a systemic problem throughout the military.  Congress thinks any problem can be solved with SEAL Team 6 nowdays, so you knew this was coming.  It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Barnes
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Your final statements are something that I have been thinking of a lot lately too. Politicians need to pay attention to the fact that this is no longer the 20th century. The chances of the US fighting a "typical" war are getting slimmer by the day. Our enemies have been learning since the early 60s that the way to "defeating" us or at least making us leave is by being patient. Guerrilla warfare is the way of the future. They no longer fight by the rules that our politicians still hold our military accountable for. Politicians handcuffing our troops so publicly will lead to nothing good. To me the only countries that still follow the rules set forth by the Geneva Convention are the US/Canada/Britain/etc. This is just my opinion of course by major players such as Russia and China don't follow these rules and neither do many smaller countries and especially not terrorist organizations. At some point our rules get to a stage where we will become ineffective militarily because our politicians don't let the military do their jobs.

 

Feel free to comment. Sorry these thoughts aren't in a real order or deeply thought out. They are just my opinions.

gipbmac
gipbmac 5pts

 @Barnes I couldn't agree more!  

BrandonWebb
BrandonWebb moderator 5pts

 @Barnes Thank you for the comment. -BW

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

"I can’t stand people who use “look at me” vocabulary words"

 

So would you say that you eschew obfuscation? LOL Excellent points, sir!

BrandonWebb
BrandonWebb moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @HugeFan Well put.

BD1911
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 @BrandonWebbLet me preface this (very) long post by saying that I love the site, and read it daily.  And, because I appreciate what you guys are trying to do here, I feel compelled to speak up on a couple points from this piece.

 

First, I think you should eliminate the ad hominem attacks if you want your arguments to pass muster.  To be clear, an ad hom attack is an attempt to invalidate the position or opinion of a person by pointing out a characteristic or belief that is, or is perceived to be, negative.  

 

"I have nothing against Linda. She’s obviously very intelligent, not a very good writer (I can’t stand people who use “look at me” vocabulary words) and not on solid ground opining about the Special Operations community."

 

This statement is silly (as well as lazy), and falls squarely within the framework of such an attack.  As a regular reader who enjoys your work (going back to Kit Up!, I might add), I know you're capable of better analyzing and refute a position without resorting to cheap shots. 

 

Her style might not be very engaging, but that's a different argument.  It also overlooks the fact that this is how people in her profession are expected to write.  Have you ever read a report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO), the Congressional Research Service (CRS), or literally any think tank?  EVERY policy or position paper circulating Congress reads much like her written testimony.  Academic, legal and medical journals are much the same.  As No Body said below, "that's just how it's done in DC," though that can really be said of any profession where writing and getting published is a primary goal.  Of course, none of this speaks to whether her opinions are right or wrong.  I'd just like to see you clarify WHY her opinions are wrong, and not try to discredit someone based on their lack of military experience or writing style.

 

Second, is this: "There are problems when you don’t let experts do their jobs, especially when it comes to lambs trying to lead lions."  Can you clarify what you mean?  Do you believe the military should have complete autonomy from our civilian leadership?  Maybe I'm misreading your intent (text doesn't convey nuance very well), but this statement is troubling.  I'm sure that, at times, this policy is a PITA for operators like yourself, but I think the founders wanted to make sure the lions were restrained for fear they might someday turn on the lambs.  Next to a return to monarchy, it seems to me that this was the thing they feared the most.

 

I'm sure this post amounts to me drop-kicking the hornet's nest, but I thought this piece was well below your usual standards.  That said, I still think you guys are awesome and will continue reading SOFREP each day.

BrandonWebb
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 @BD1911 This is all good stuff and I appreciate and agree with your analogy of Robinson.   Ok..nap time then Spiderman. 5-8-10 will challenge you!

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BW -

 

Thank you for the clear and civil response.  To be honest, I did agonize for some time whether to post it or not.  

 

In the spirit of civility, I need to apologize for the name-calling.  Lazy is not a word I should have used, especially now knowing what I know from your response.  And I can certainly appreciate the need to vent.

 

Put bluntly, the Axe article was a f-ing travesty.  I guess this kind of thing is part of the reason I spoke up.  I know that this is a blog (as is DR), and we've both seen the kind of damage an article like his can do to a blog, specifically to its and the author's credibility.  What I've also seen is an evolution where blogs are, rightly or wrongly, being treated more like "traditional" news sources.  Most of those established outlets - you mentioned the NYT and WSJ - have even taken the step of starting their own blogs on every conceivable topic.  In the process I think that has helped to legitimize blogs as a whole, which is a good thing, though it also opens them up to a greater level of criticism.

 

I can also get behind the idea that the writing standards could and should be changed.  IMO, it's perfectly acceptable for an academic, medical or legal journal - read pretty exclusively by people in those respective fields - to write in such a style.  It's intended for an audience that thinks/writes/speaks in that language.  I guess I've always just lumped gov't reports into that same group, because I've never encountered one that wasn't written that way.  But after giving it some thought, I see your point.  When something is intended (I use that word loosely here) for public consumption, I completely agree that plain English would be best.  That said, the status quo is what it is at the moment.  I'm not sure what it would take to change this, but someone with a spouse, 2-3 kids, a mortgage and maybe a dog or cat shouldn't need special training to read and understand such a document.

 

Finally, I would never allow a doctor or surgeon to perform a procedure on me or my family with no prior experience.  However, there are a number of medical professionals who are experts in specific fields of medicine without actually practicing.  I'm thinking of people like chemists, lab researchers and technicians, and the like.  I just lost a family member to cancer, and I have another one fighting it.  Lab technicians have been crucial in testing tissue for tumors and cancer cells, and we have called on their expertise to inform our surgeon when tissue is infected, and when it's not.  Those techs didn't/don't perform the dissection, but their perspective helps our surgeon do the best and most thorough job he can.

 

If people, like yourself, with SOF experience are the doctors/surgeons, I would liken Ms. Robinson to that of a lab technician.  She has done a lot of research, and thus has a good deal of knowledge in a very specific area, but that is different from acquiring the practical experience necessary to competently operate on or treat a patient.  IMO, that doesn't necessarily mean she has no business offering a testimony to the HASC subcommittee, it just means it should be taken as a small component of a much larger whole and - as with most things in DC - with a healthy grain of salt.

 

Anyway, this is my second novel of the day, so I'm done for a while.  Thanks for engaging with me and taking the time to address my comments.  Not sure how old your kids are, but If you manage to execute Operation Naptime Illiad and have an interest in continuing our discussion, I'll look forward to reading your reply.  Thanks again.

HugeFan
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 @BrandonWebb  @BD1911 That was the best volley yet, poignant and respectful.

BrandonWebb
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 @BD1911 Sorry for the typos/grammar....I've got all three of my kids and am outnumbered and outflanked. Had to get this comm shot out in haste...

BrandonWebb
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 @BD1911 No problem and thank you for posting this. 

 

To clarify, this is not an attack, it's more of a rant and me venting some frustration. I pointed this out at the very start. 

The "lazy" statement you refer to was my ill attempt to foreshadow my explanation of why I don't like her writing style. You call it lazy, you're entitled to your own opinion and fair enough.

 

"Her style might not be very engaging, but that's a different argument.  It also overlooks the fact that this is how people in her profession are expected to write."

I'd ask you this. Expected by whom? The fact that this style is perceived as the standard is complete bull shit in my opinion should be changed. If you can't write so an average person can understand it's a problem.I'm sure a lot of people were head nodding and too afraid to admit they don't understand what the hell she was talking about. Yes, I am human and vent my frustration, that's what's great about blogs and why we are not the NY Times or WSJ.

 

I hear your statement about "that's what's expected"  a lot in journalism and in most cases as an excuse.  It's what happened when Dave Axe at Wired was trying to justify his post about North Korea and the Spec Ops invasion he reported on falsely. "It's common for journalists to take quotes from seniors at face value and not fact check"...-Dave Axe... it went something like that. No excuse.

 

I'm not arguing for or against her opinions, I'm just pointed out that she's giving advice on issues she knows little or nothing about. Would you let your family take medical advice from someone who studied but never practiced medicine?

 

To clarify about experts doing their jobs. We have an existing chain of command with oversight. It holds the military accountable as it should. Added layers of bureaucracy and trying to "shape" the future landscape without understanding what the hell your (politicians in most cases) talking about or going to think tanks like RAND who have the expertise to weigh in is a problem.

 

Hopefully this clears it up for you.  Thanks again for coming out of the SOFREP shadows to post your comments, it shows you care and it's appreciated.

Brandon

 

 

JackMurphyRGR
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Thankfully in this case, Congressional hearings are pretty toothless themselves.  I agree that this is coming though.  Politicians are going to want to piggyback of SOCOM success stories.  Frankly, they don't have any choice, it's the only institution of government that seems to work and has public support.

BrandonWebb
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 @JackMurphyRGR Agreed that it's the best system of govt. going and getting worse every election cycle. 

gipbmac
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 @BrandonWebb so true! 

Tango9
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 @JackMurphyRGR On one hand, Jack, you're correct, but on the other, remember that all general officer appointments are from congress.  When Colonels see congress critters running about they tend to shit themselves.  You've seen it, I've seen it.

HugeFan
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 @JackMurphyRGR "Frankly, they don't have any choice, it's the only institution of government that seems to work and has public support." 

 

Ain't that the truth!

 

Reminds me of a discussion between a couple of fictional characters in Patrick Robinson's book 'The Delta Solution'. One is an admiral and the other a close friend and subordinate, they discuss a way to perform their job while negotiating the political morass that is D.C.. It touches almost exactly on what Brandon is talking about here.

 

In fact, interestingly enough I remember that when I was a kid (and the internet hadn't fully taken its hold) it was very hard to find information on Special Operations. Libraries hardly had books, so I had to go to military surplus stores to get it. Now? Throw a rock...Point being that the Spec Ops is most effective under the radar right? Well, now you'll literally be on radar if you get stationed on the U.S.S. Ponce, it's a ~600ft long, 16,000 ton LPD. Not my vision for stealth (obviously though it carries significant capabilities that are needed), maybe they'll wrap the shit out of it in RAM and duct tape?

 

I think the most valid points to be made are the ying-yang relationship between the new found "rockstar" (I am using the term bravely, I know that some may not get my meaning) status in which funding is rising to desired levels but the excess oversight that it entails will hamstring the Special Operations community. Maybe you guys could get Bob Kerry in on that, he should have a pretty good idea about how you guys feel about this.

FormerSFMedic
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@HugeFan @JackMurphyRGR How do you feel this blog fits into that exposure?

BrandonWebb
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 @HugeFan  @FormerSFMedic It happens...

HugeFan
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 @FormerSFMedic My apologies for the horrible spelling and missing words. No excuses, I knew better than to try and use my iPhone but I did it anyway and the comment looks like hot buttered garbage served in a toilet bowl. <head hits palm>

KineticFury
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that was for @FormerSFMedic my bad

 

KineticFury
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Not sure where you're taking this but I think SOFREP is good BECAUSE (<-italics) of all the misleading exposure out there. Just my humble opinion. I realize that others would push for more ambiguity, publicity-wise.

 

With all the misinformation out there I believe a healthy dosage of accurate info is needed, though not ideal.

 

HugeFan
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@FormerSFMedic I think that this blog helps outsiders like me understand the hardships undertaken by folks like you. Instead of pure glamor, you and folks like you come here and vent your frustrations with regards to the masters of you destiny (as far as Spec ops is concerned). So I think that blogs like this help put a human face on it and helps. Ivilians realize that despite high levels of training and dedication, you need an equal amount of dedication and understanding from us. Your question is both poignant and difficult to answer. :-) While I want to celebrate the awesomeness that USSOCOM I do in fact understand the need for discretion. Not a very good answer but it's all I got for you brother. I can try to expand on it if you find it to be UNSAT.

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