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Home » Black Ops & Intel » What the OSS Taught Us About Body Searches

What the OSS Taught Us About Body Searches

by Brandon Webb · July 29, 2012 · Posted In: Black Ops & Intel, SOF History
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This is a great video that is still very relevant in today’s world where often most people don’t look up from their mobile devices to pay attention….

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Old PH2
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I keep seeing this image of Keith Moon as uncle Ernie in Tommy, maybe it's just me.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFhO7EU08Tg

lightfighter
lightfighter 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old PH2 I was about 5 when my sister, 15, was in charge of me for the day and took me and a couple of her friends to see Tommy.  

 

My parents were not pleased.  And I still have visions of Ann Margret humping pillows while baked beans pour out of the television .....

 

AHHHHHHHHH !

msgtspook
msgtspook 5pts

Isn't that Tyrone Power as the enemy officer in charge?

 

Sadly, I remember Dictaphones all too well.  On my first hitch in the Army ('64), they were standard issue for most O-6's who had a secretary, and supply cabinets were full of Dictaphone belts, which were a real pain when the dictation was classified, and you just generated another TS document to control ....

lightfighter
lightfighter 5pts

I knew this guy was screwed just from the condition of his shoes ....  

 

Bump frisks work.  In an NPE carry in the appendix position with a shirt tuckable IWB or string holster. People are far less likely to reach for your waist / groin or press their body up against yours front to front.  When unavoidable use the 'church hug ' ( shape of letter A stance ).

 

Oh, and don't hang out with treacherous whooores.

nailbomb3
nailbomb3 5pts

 @lightfighter yep, bitches are bad news xD

 

adapt_achieve
adapt_achieve 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @lightfighter Those were Steve's favorite shoes.  You can tell because they were just about the last thing he took off.  Who takes their pants off before their shoes?

Old PH2
Old PH2 moderator 5pts

 @adapt_achieve  @lightfighter Ever tried to change your clothes in a urine soaked foreign privy?  You learn to wear pants that'll permit that.  But Yeah he was acting a little too squirrelly. 

FutureJarHead
FutureJarHead 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Great video, I wonder if TSA still uses this training video, change the sound track to Lil Wayne and you got a kick ass, updated, TSA specific video.

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

 @FutureJarHead Now that's funny right there... L-l-l-l-like a lollipop...

SEAN SPOONTS
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That's a great find. These old training films are great. Lol I cringed when they looked like they were going to do a cavity search but then stopped at a visual. "Steve, if only you had 'keistered' that message instead of using that old phony callus routine."

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SEAN SPOONTS

 I thought the same thing LOL...he got a brief Doc Jelly finger but no squat and cough, thankfully for us.

I love the narrators of those old films and the dramatic film score. Looking back, other then I had to look up Dictaphone, everything mentioned except for maybe modern electronics stands true today.

SEAN SPOONTS
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@ArcticWarrior Kinda interesting in an age where movies showed married couples sleeping in separate beds that they showed the guy nude. That was the 1940s version of not pulling any punches and going for realism I guess. The acting though was terrible. Chances are the guys in the movie were OSS (rather than actors)cleared up to at least secret. OSS was super clandestine back then. Back when I was in the fleet the CIA director was one William Casey. At the time, much was made of the fact that he had been in the OSS in WWII. The cowboy days of the CIA(the1950's & 1960s) was mostly due to the CIA being staffed mostly with hold overs from the OSS. They were real ruthless guys. Not the SIGINT types at all. That was a poison, stab, blow you away kind of CIA back then. With Casey at the CIA you had Stinger missles going to A-Stan to blow hundreds of Russian helicopters out of the sky(rendering their most mobile and effective troops ineffective). You had aid to the CONTRAs. You had COIN Ops going in Guatemala and El Salavador. You had Soviet spies being caught left and right in the 80s. You had some substantial subervsion activities directed at the Eastern Block. You had a lot of slick fakery in the SDI program to make the USSR think we were more highly advanced than we really were. You also had some really bold forays into Soviet territory and waters at CIA direction with military cooperation. In those days, the SEALs were generally seen as covert intelligence gatherers for ONI which worked pretty close with the CIA given the number of briefing documents that I saw that appeared to be join releases.

msgtspook
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 @SEAN SPOONTS  @ArcticWarrior 

When I was in the DIA HUMINT shop, back in the late 60s, early 70s, almost everyone there was an old OSS retread.  Most were OSS, then CIA, then trf to DIA when many programs were split off from CIA in the 60s.  Most were retired O-5s, now GS12-15.  Tough old birds with field experience up the yang. At the time our shop was near the old Tom Sarris Orleans House in Arlington, and a couple of young toughs tried to mug one of these gray-haired old farts in the parking lot.  No doubt their time in the hospital gave them time to reflect on their career choices.

 

Being young & stupid, I didn't fully appreciate how lucky I was learning from the masters, and I'd give anything to go back in time and ask a LOT of questions. I was working with one old guy, rewriting the tradecraft portion of DIAM 58-11 ("The Collector's Bible"), and the little brainstorming sessions we had with the other old farts absolutely blew my young mind when they started talking about their adventures with the Maquis, Jedburgh teams, the Kachins, etc.  Since the US special ops & intel effort was truly virginal back in WW2, these guys had to make it up as they went along, and overall did a pretty fair job with little credit.

 

Our Chief of HUMINT at the time was Col Bob Roth, the old cdr of MAAG III, in Laos, who later founded the Association of Former Intelligence Officers

 

The biggest shame is that I don't think any of these guys ever wrote any books or left any memoirs. 

HugeFan
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 @SEAN SPOONTS  @ArcticWarrior "That was a poison, stab, blow you away kind of CIA back then. With Casey at the CIA you had Stinger missles going to A-Stan to blow hundreds of Russian helicopters out of the sky(rendering their most mobile and effective troops ineffective). You had aid to the CONTRAs."

 

Good points but I think you'll agree that the excerpt I selected contains two very flawed plans that ended up biting us in the ass... HUGELY.

ArcticWarrior
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Our boy Steve got pinched because he was trying to get some, like the guy said he put his foot in it.

 

Dictaphone - (Electronics)™ a tape recorder designed for recording dictation and later reproducing it for typing

formwiz
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 @ArcticWarrior There was a time (which I remember fondly) when you wouldn't have to define what a Dictaphone was.

 

Oy!

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