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Home » Op-Ed » What If You Were In The Movie Theater That Night?

What If You Were In The Movie Theater That Night?

by Mark Miller · August 1, 2012 · Posted In: Op-Ed
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“If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath–a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.” Dave Grossman

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There were two general reactions to the cowardly shooting in Colorado. The sheep thought “Thank God I was not in that theater, I would have died”. The sheep dogs thought “If I had been in the theater, maybe I could have done something to stop him”.

No one can plan a response to such an unpredictable attack. We can, however, think about how to think. We can prepare and strengthen ourselves so that when we are there, we will be prepared to do all that we can do. I don’t want to speculate about what happened or second guess anyone’s actions, but we can have a discussion about what we should think about for the next time.

I have seen film of the Nazi’s leading people to the edge of a hole where they were executed. One body would fall in and the next victim walked to the edge and repeated the process. I always wondered why they didn’t fight. They were in denial and hoped that things would turn out OK if they just cooperated.

The first thing I want to do in a shooting is dismiss the false hope that everything may work out if I do nothing. If I freeze like prey, maybe he will move on. There is a school of thought among some police officers that when you are off duty, you should be a good witness and not intervene. What do you do when they are killing witnesses?

Once you get rid of false hope, you are left with action. When you have to eat a shit sandwich, bite the corner where it is mostly bread. The truth is, your best odds are to rapidly asses, come up with a plan and do ANYTHING which seizes initiative and initiates movement.

Tony Blauer has done more thinking and study on ambush than anyone I know. He has three golden rules for an unexpected attack:
1) Accept what is happening It is human nature to avoid the unpleasant and ignore the incomprehensible. Have the courage to face reality.

2) Get challenged No matter what the odds, you need to rise to the challenge. Don’t accept a no win situation.

3) Keep moving and thinking Countless millions have spent their last moments on Earth paralyzed by confusion. Don’t be counted among them.

When we are confronted with any problem, the human mind scrolls through our knowledge base searching for information on how to react. This is often described by survivors as “my life flashed before my eyes.” Your brain is scanning it’s data. “Man with a gun”, is there an app for that? Merely reading this article makes you more likely to respond effectively. Imagine what a little training could do.

FBI statistics on police shootings say that over all, about 85% of shooting victims survive. The important lesson: you may not be hit and even if you are hit, you probably won’t die. If you can feel pain, you can still fight.

Your best move may be to take your family away from danger. If you aren’t a cop, you don’t have a duty to act. No one can blame you if you take care of your own. You could hit the floor and shield your loved ones with your body. What happens after you are shot? Your children may have to watch you die and leave them helpless.

There was noise and smoke and darkness. People were panicked and confused. Those who noted the location of the fire exits as they sat down that night had an advantage. The first to recognize a man coming in the fire exit with smoke bombs had more time to plan and act. Situational awareness is the primary survival skill. Recognizing the problem is the first step in solving it. The first to move probably escaped.

What if the bad man blocks your way? As I see it, your options narrow to one. There needs to be what Tony Blauer calls a “predator-prey reversal”. Armed or unarmed, you must plan an attack. This is not a foolish act of bravado, it is the only logical alternative to probable death for you and perhaps your loved ones.

If you have never studied a fighting style, you have the rest of your life to develop one.

The noise, darkness and confusion affect the bad guys too. Side Show Bob was wearing a gas mask and target fixated on his victims. This made him vulnerable. There will be a pause for reloads or jams or distractions. Look for them and be ready to act.

Even if you have a firearm, you may not have a shot. Body armor might negate center of mass handgun shots. You need to get close. If you don’t have a gun you shouldn’t just wait to die. I may get shot trying to take his gun, but I may get his gun. If he is fighting with me, my loved ones can escape. It buys time for others. I have trained for this fight all my life, he is a coward with a gun, I bet I will win.

I have been asked “What if you act and the police shoot you in the confusion?” If the cops shoot me in the back saving a theater full of people, that is a fair trade. I’ll be drinking blood wine with Kahless in Sto-Vo-Kor before the next sunrise.  I just hope they don’t hit me in the spine and just cripple me.  I will be a tragic hero and Woody Harrelson will probably play the role of me in the anti-gun film version.

I cannot imagine how the families and survivors must feel. My heart and prayers go out to them.  More terrible than death would be the thought that I could have made a difference, but failed to act. My guilt and shame would be eternal.

We can’t stay safe in a bunker or carry enough guns to protect everyone, everywhere. We can actively look for danger, recognize and avoid it. We can mourn the innocent, but we can’t change what happened. Let us reflect on our fitness and training and prepare for tomorrow. When we are confronted by evil, we will respond as we have trained and mentally rehearsed.

“Chance favors the prepared mind.” Louis Pasteur

 

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johndixon628
johndixon628 5pts

I'm not sure if anyone referenced this video yet, but Run/Hide/Fight is a good basic strategy everyone needs to consider. It's far from a slick Hollywood production, but it contains some valuable information for the average citizen who will, likely, become the intended target. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VcSwejU2D0&feature=share

 

I've re-posted this on several articles because I feel it is a good video to share among friends and family. While those of us with more advanced training might see different methods to use in such events, I want those I care about to live through it. I hope we all can agree on that. 

 

 

markmiller
markmiller 5pts

Preparation to combat violent offenders starts with the mind ....

SRO STANDOFF WITH GUNMAN AT SULLIVAN CENTRAL

Raw video from security cameras at Sullivan Central High showing the Aug 30, 2010 standoff between School Resource Officer Carolyn Gudger and a gunman at the school. Gudger placed herself between the principal and the gunman until back-up arrived. Unedited video starts with Gudger's arrival at Sullivan Central High School and ends fourteen minutes later just before the arrival of back-up and the shooting of the gunman. The actual stand-off begins at the three minute mark but the gunman can be seen walking around in the front doors of the school before then. The audio of the 911 call can be heard but you have to turn your volume up all the way. Not sure why she didn't just shoot him? She may have never mentally prepared for an incident like this.

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEDEi8ZZ--E&feature=related

SEAN SPOONTS
SEAN SPOONTS 5pts

An answer to those who believe that a long range shot with a pistol when an active shooter is present presents such a low chance of success that it isn't even worth trying. The bad guy had a tree for cover and an AR-15. The good guy put one shot into his thigh, was fired upon and then put 4 more into him. Not one lucky miracle of a shot, but five in a row. "Armed Citizen in TX Stops Shooting Spree and Saves Cop by Making 150+ Yard Shot With a Pistol" http://deadlinelive.info/2012/08/07/armed-citizen-in-tx-stops-shooting-spree-and-saves-cop-by-making-150-yard-shot-with-a-pistol/

RVN SF VET
RVN SF VET 5pts

 @SEAN SPOONTS I'm surprised that anyone would use this story as an example of possible marksmanship in broad daylight much less a theater. The story is great and it's terrific that the armed citizen responded the way he did, but it did not happen at 165 yards. I believe the gentleman misspoke. It is more likely that it was 165 feet or less. You cannot see the target at 165 yards unless you have optics. Optics on a handgun at that distance would shake so much that you could not stay on target. That is why handgun optics are low power. A rifle scope and a supported position is different and it still would be a series of great shots.

 

To make 5 hits at 50 yards with a likely .357 Magnum revolver is still fantastic shooting, especially when he himself was under fire from the subject. Looking at that trailer park it is hard to understand how you could figure out what was happening half a football field away. The distance in the theater could have been anything under 50 feet. The discussion was about getting an adequate sight picture in dim lighting at a distance greater than 30 feet. This great story has no bearing on that issue.

 

In reading your Navy background, it is not clear to me how your training has given you expertise in matters of firearms and their use. I probably don't know what all the Navy acronyms stand for. However, the fact that you took this story at face value is telling. There was a great firearms author named Elmer Keith who used to shoot a hot loaded .44 Special and is one of the people responsible for the development of the .44 Magnum. He made some very long shots with iron sights on deer and elk with his handgun. He was surprised that he could hit a target at ranges over 100 yards.

 

 

SEAN SPOONTS
SEAN SPOONTS 5pts

@RVN SF VET O.K. Please don't faint surprise that I would mention this story. I specifically said why I did. In answer to those who claim that the possibility of hitting such a target with a handgun is so low that it ought not even be attempted. The range in the theater would have been much shorter, whether its 165 feet or 165 yards(your speculation not withstanding). I wondered how he could have made out the target too at that range. but absent clarification of the exact range(which puts your uninformed guess on the same footing as newspaper's possible misquote) he still did real good and put five rounds into the guy while being shot at. And he appears to be elderly. As for my Navy background and your questioning whether it qualifies me to speculate. That's a very old tactic. It's designed to close off discussion while pretending to engage in it. There are lots of pictures of Navy SAR swimmers holding and firing a variety of weapons. Check em out and decide for yourself if any one of us is qualified to talk about firearms. In the 1980's, to even be a SAR swimmer, you had to qual on the M-16, the 1911 .45 cal, the S&W 38 and the M-60N. In the fleet you got additional opportunities to qual on the M2,(shot one, but didn't get a chance to Qual) the M79(fired but not Qaul.) the Remington 870, police variant(shot the hell out of it and Qual.).

RVN SF VET
RVN SF VET 5pts

 @SEAN SPOONTS  Well, we agree that in the theater, the range is likely to be 50 feet or less. It wasn't a newspaper misquote, in the video, the gentleman clearly says 165 yards which is probably the full length of the trailer park! With your weapons training, I'd take my pistol down to the range at twilight and do some silhouette shooting at different ranges in the fading light. See how you do. Then remember that the average CCW holder hasn't had your training and that the chaos in the theater would distract the average bear.

 

It's my contention that at the more distant ranges, in dim conditions, it gets harder to score a hit. I'd take it through till darkness.

 

Louis Awerbuck has good classes and travels around the country teaching defensive shooting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1hlTNJ_46A I took it in Durham, NC and learned a lot. He includes some crude moving targets in his drills. The guy in the theater was moving as well as the people in the theater.

 

 

JCS
JCS 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I'd offer to you that there is a fourth type in the mix also. True that the sheepdogs defend the herd and fight off the wolves; but there are wolfhounds that actually hunt down those wolves and end the predation. It takes a good predator to destroy a bad one. I'd suggest that SOF operators are far more like wolfhounds than just sheepdogs...

DarwinWavesX
DarwinWavesX 5pts

 @JCS 

 

I would suggest farther that they are not wolvehounds, but instead honey badgers.

markmiller
markmiller 5pts

https://www.gavindebecker.com/resources/book/the_gift_of_fear/

 

I highly recommend Gavin DeBecker's book, "The Gift of Fear"

PatrickM
PatrickM 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Ok how about some of you posting some of you're workout /training secrets. I had a conversation with some SEALS a few years ago at a SEAL Fit event that completely changed my thoughts on strength and conditioning.I would like to get you're thoughts on training for physical confrontation. Methods you use for developing both physical and mental  toughness

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

 @PatrickM I second that request.

Jim_Bodor
Jim_Bodor 5pts

"When you have to eat a shit sandwich, bite the corner where it is mostly bread." Ha I freakin' love that.

usapatriotonthemove
usapatriotonthemove 5pts

I've read both of Col Grossman's books and reccomend them highly to everyone.  Man...This site rocks.  Thanks to All of you that have served and contribute here.  Sharing your knowledge with us give's us a fighting chance when put in a tough situation.  I hope that day never comes, but if it does....This qoute will be scrolling through my mind and I will be prepared.  "Let us reflect on our fitness and training and prepare for tomorrow. When we are  confronted by evil, we will respond as we have trained and mentally rehearsed." 

markmiller
markmiller 5pts

Great first hand account:

http://sinisterdreams.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/carli-and-chriss-story-continued/

PatrickM
PatrickM 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Great read very motivating. i will" reflect on my fitness,and training and prepare for tomorrow".. I have learned a few things form this site. The most important being to  always challenge my mind set.Always try to be mentally in the game,whether I am at work or going to the mall.To have situational awareness at all times and be prepared to go 100%. What makes  this all the more compelling to me is that it comes from Warriors Who KNOW..Thanks for a great web site that gives insight into the minds of the SHEEPDOGS

PONI
PONI 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

 @PatrickM Don't sound like you're military man, but here's a tidbit for you.

 

guard·i·an/ˈgärdēən/Noun: A defender, protector, or keeper.

 

When I was younger, I saw that someone has to be the guardian of morality, righteousness, and freedom. That is why I joined the military, but everyone don't have to do it that way. "Different strokes for different folks." Some people become doctors, ministers, cops, fireman, engineers, machinists, or whatever, it doesn't matter. Do what you're led to. As long as whatever you do is for the betterment of those around you. Pretty much that means service. Serve everyone. If that means, "situational awareness" go for it. Go to the range, learn to be efficient at using a weapon, take a martial arts class, or just learn to watch your surroundings. The definition of guardian doesn't have to include military or LE service. It means taking whatever you hold most dear, protecting it with everything you are, then trying to make sure someone else has the opportunity to have what you do.

 

Sorry about the spill...I'm feeling motivated.

ZoulRic
ZoulRic 5pts

 @PONI well said!

markmiller
markmiller 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hEzW1WRFTg

 

This is pretty powerful.  There is more to greatness than sports.

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @markmiller Very cool, that little kid at the end is now a hero of mine.

taberphoto
taberphoto 5pts

Very good points made.

SEAN SPOONTS
SEAN SPOONTS 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Very pleased in reading all of this. The contrast between this site and the rest of the media in the their treatment of this event is like night and day. While the MSM engages in group shrieks and hug circles over this mass murder, here at SOFREP there are four(count em') threads about not passively waiting to either die or have the 'authorities' come and save your life. That passive sheep mentality even seems to extend to how spectators relate to this event. The sheep buy candles and hold silent, weeping vigils, the sheep dogs go to the range and sharpen their skills.

MedicSteve2
MedicSteve2 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Exactly.  And that character helps make this and LOR two of my favorite sites online.

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SEAN SPOONTS Excellent point! I have been thinking the same thing lately. I would say thought, that people showing the victims compassion through silent vigil is not overly passive. I do agree though that this event should be another call to vigilance for our society and not a "Stuart Smalley Daily Affirmation" ritual that it has become. Also, it seems to me that the more these nutjobs throw around the idea of more gun control or stand in front of the theater crying for the victims, it just emboldens the next Side Show Bob because he/she sees how they can "control" the population through their actions.

SEAN SPOONTS
SEAN SPOONTS 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@HugeFan Consider please which reaction is most pleasing to the killer. The sheep all weeping and blubbering or the sheep dogs hitting the ten ring? That's another point. These killers seem to revel in inflicting suffering on others. The more the media focus centers on the suffering of the victims, survivors and their relatives the greater the ego gratification to the killer. In a way, the "negative celebrity" offered by the media has to fuel this.

Ben K
Ben K 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SEAN SPOONTS  Much like terrorism, if you think about it.

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

 @SEAN SPOONTS  @HugeFan Agreed.

Old PH2
Old PH2 moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @HugeFan  @SEAN SPOONTS One of my favorite Stuart Smalley quotes:

"I learned what love is from my parents. Which is that you find that one special person who was placed on the planet just for you, and then you put them through forty years of living hell."

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

 @SEAN SPOONTS  @Old  @HugeFan Yeah, even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and again!

SEAN SPOONTS
SEAN SPOONTS 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Old PH2 @HugeFan Lol. That's really funny. Every once in a while(like Haley's Comet once in a while) Al Franken says something funny.

Blake Miles
Blake Miles 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

"I will be a tragic hero and Woody Harrelson will probably play the role of me in the anti-gun film version."LOLGreat read Mark!

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

I read that twice to makes sure that the points sank in. Worried about the school of thought in LE that says to be a witness and not intervene but I don't go fix ships when I'm not on the clock so who am I to judge? I can only hope that their are more "sheepdogs" in LE rather than the "wage-earners" and "pension-seekers".

 

As for the chance at being collateral damage when the police actively engage the threat? Well, shit from what I have read, that's just combat. Like Mark said it's best to make every second you have count towards achieving the sustainment of your life. If that means charging the guy and getting shot by either him or LE then you either did something very brave or you just won a Darwin Award. I believe that Mark is advocating for intelligent movement though and not recommending that one should charge the bastard when there is a good possibility that the bullet meant for the culprit would become lodged in your body. "I will be a tragic hero and Woody Harrelson will probably play the role of me in the anti-gun film version." Funny shit right there! 

 

When the bullets start to fly it's time to move and keep moving until the threat is far away or incapacitated. If he's in my way then my duty as father/husband is to make certain that I provide my family with an exit. Maybe that means making sure that this asshole dumps every last round into me instead of my son, wife or someone else.

 

Oh and Side Show Bob? That's bloody classic! Excellent article Boss! That's his name from now on.

 

ArcticWarrior
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 @HugeFan

 This Clown was tackled by movie goers. Some panicked, some evacuated to safety but a few acted to take down the aggressor. Maybe the new found awareness to not be a victim?

 

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/01/13067471-man-allegedly-yells-this-is-it-at-batman-showing-panic-ensues?lite

 

 

shagstar
shagstar 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ArcticWarrior  @HugeFan

 @ArcticWarrior that's the same phrase oswald alledgedly yelled at the theatre he was arrested at in dallas back in 63!

shagstar
shagstar 5pts

 @ArcticWarrior  @HugeFan

 @ArcticWarrior yep!!  but ol ronnie disappointed the bastards by refusing too die on their terms!  at least booth had his spine shot out of his ass and quietly shit his trousers!!

ArcticWarrior
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 @shagstar  @HugeFan

 Lincoln at Ford Theatre directly relates doesnt it? All those people and a few react in the confusion. One guy was stabbed pretty bad and another group tried to catch him, broken leg and all, but most just gasped and tried to get out. Now when Ronbo was shot by Hinckley people reacted, granted they were trained LE and SS but we all saw it on video, they reacted as trained and planned for.

shagstar
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 @ArcticWarrior  @HugeFan

 @ArcticWarrior lol,,then he did a rambo style half gainer off the balcony and broke his friggin leg!!!  i'll bet he said,,fucking banner, after that cluster fuck!!

ArcticWarrior
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 @shagstar  @HugeFan

 I thought that sounded familiar, JWB has the most dramatic "Sic semper tyrannis!"

HugeFan
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 @ArcticWarrior "If we focus on the negative energy, we're giving more power to them, so I try to avoid that," moviegoer Jose Salaicez said. I agree with that for the most part as I am not inclined to live my life in fear, just better prepared than most. That said, if I am alone or with family and somebody decides to pull some crazy shit (armed or unarmed), I'm going Bobby Bouche-status that instant.

HugeFan
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 @ArcticWarrior You can do it! Rip his fargging head off!

ArcticWarrior
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 @HugeFan

 My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

Bill T
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This is the lifestyle/mindset I have been trying to show my friends for some time. The author did a fine job distilling it down into a few words. Bill T.

shagstar
shagstar 5pts

shit!!  the more i digest with all this insanity running amok nowaday's,,the madder i get,,the calmer i become! i can't explain it anymore than that. i just wish i had this demenor when i was younger!

StormR
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Regarding the Jews during the Holocaust, I think it was a matter of ‘acceptance’ as much as a matter of denial. I was raised in a community of violence (that I won’t speak about), and twice before my 10th year I was in situations where I ‘knew’ I was going to die. The first time I fought hard and it did me no good. That experience taught me I was helpless and powerless. The 2nd time I just accepted, with no fight in me. To this day, it is impossible to find words to explain what terror and helplessness feels like – they are just words unless you’ve experienced them. The Jews in those camps knew the depths of inhumanity that men could commit, saw atrocities that defied one’s worse imagination, and knew there was no rescue from it. I think some just came to accept they would die – and perhaps even welcomed it. I cannot stress enough the importance of these articles on SOFREP. On SOFREP you are getting solid information, ideas and recommendations from those who know violence and know people who have stripped away all pretenses at being civilized. You must be prepared in advance because once you are in the grips of it (if inexperienced in violence) either a mind-numbing freeze or instinct without thought will occur. You can’t ever know where it will happen. It’s more likely to happen on your street or in your home than it will again in a movie theater. The recommendations for equipment and the tips are great, but if your ‘mindset’ isn’t right or you haven’t developed good instinct, all the weapons and tools won’t help you. It takes thoughtful attention and conscious effort & practice to get your head where it needs to be handle emergencies. Don’t be that “OMG, OMG, what do I do?” person. You won’t know for certain if you are until that moment – unless you are prepared not to be. I won’t ever be a victim again – even if the next time it does kill me.

Ben K
Ben K 5pts

 @StormR Exactly the point I tried to raise in the last couple of articles.  A gun's no good to you if you freeze up in panic or just stand up and start firing wildly.  You won't ever be in CAG (or maybe you will, it's important to keep dreaming!) but that doesn't mean you can't keep shooting 'til the gun is an extension of your hand.  Thought for the day: Amateurs train until they get it right.  Professionals train until they can't get it wrong.

markmiller
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 @StormR

 I hope I never understand hopelessness.  We can not judge or fully comprehend what others have gone through.  Like the Israelis, we can say "Never again"

PONI
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This sums up my thoughts perfectly. There's a quote that I remember that says, "We might not get the all, hell they'll probably get most of us, but make them bastards never forget they were fighting United States Marines!"

Replace "Marines" with whatever you are and you have a code to live by.

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @PONI OOHRAH, brother... If I may... :-)

ArcticWarrior
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Very well put. I saw a video over the weekend of a Lioness taking on a full grown Crocodile. The Pride was swimming across and the croc moved in. She was undersized and out of her element but she went after him and put up enough fight that the croc thought it not worth the time. He tried an ambush, she reacted, bought some time for the others to escape. And she came away with a few scratches. Nature can show you all you need to know. Do something, flight or fight, just dont sit there and do nothing.

HugeFan
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 @ArcticWarrior So I take it most cats here are not big fans of the "Don't run, you'll just die tired" mantra? :-) I never got that slogan even if it wasn't to be taken completely seriously. I can't and won't accept that it's my time until I actually feel the "life" leaving my body but until that moment I'm at least going to make whatever it is trying to kill me fucking earn it. Be'lee dat bro!

ArcticWarrior
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 @HugeFan

 Your not running, just attacking in another direction. Break contact, beat a hasty retreat if that is an option that presents itself as the most viable. Stab the ckskr in the neck with a bic pen if you have to. Do whatever it takes to protect your family, your team or yourself, just dont do nothing and be a victim. Ive seen a Moose take on a Brownie, plant eater vs top of the food chain, and the Moose walked away by virtue of sheer agression after being "ambushed" by a bigger better armed predator. Doesnt always end that way but they always fight. Moose dont fuck around,, nature programmed them to be ornery, and neither should you.

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 @PONI  @ArcticWarrior Aaaaamen! Screw injury, chicks dig scars, you find out who really are, and you'll have more badass stories later in life!

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 @ArcticWarrior  @HugeFan AW, this shit is my rocket fuel. haha

In reference to the moose vs. brownie, my dad taught when I was young that the determining factor of how to win a fight is which party is willing to go the distance, or rather, "Violence of Action." Having the mindset of "I don't care if you're a badass, I'm gonna rip your fucking throat out." goes a long way in letting somebody know you were there, and making them think "This dude's batshit crazy!"

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 @HugeFan

 You would be surprised how many times in a fire or some other calamity that perfectly good exits go unused while the herd clogs and creates a chokepoint. Be aware and always have a plan.

Im all for blowing shit up!

HugeFan
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 @ArcticWarrior You speaking = me motivated. I like it. I wanna go blow shit up, eat raw meat and and drink rocket fuel now.

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