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Home » SOFREP TV » Inside the Team Room Episode 3: Gray Men and Goons

Inside the Team Room Episode 3: Gray Men and Goons

by Brandon Webb · May 2, 2012

About The Author

Brandon Webb

Brandon Webb is a former U.S. Navy SEAL with combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the Middle East. His last tour in the SEAL Teams was as the Course Manager for the US Navy SEAL Sniper program, arguably one of the most difficult sniper courses in the world. He was formerly a contributing editor for Military.com, and currently the Editor-in-Chief of SOFREP.com. Brandon is regularly featured in the media as a subject matter expert on military affairs. An avid writer, his last two books (The Red Circle, & Benghazi: The Definitive Report) both hit the New York Times best seller list, and his writing has been featured in print, and digital media worldwide. You can follow him on Twitter @BrandontWebb

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Iassen Donov
Iassen Donov 5pts

Turds in Six and Delta last "days".. not weeks or months.

 

Guys can get processed out of those units by a snap of the finger - paperwork is minimal. I've never come across a turd at that level. But the bad apples exist (Stan Goff stands out in my mind) you just don't find out until a little later. Turds in the 75th, SEALs, and SF stick around for a little longer because its sometimes tough to kick em out and sometimes we just try to see if they mature and square themselves away.

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator 5pts

 @Iassen Donov They defintely have them in Delta.  I don't know how many are turds and how many simply fail to conform to Delta's way of doing things.  I did hear from a Delta Sergeant Major that they have their share of chuckleheads that they have to DX down the line.

 

Delta and the 75th seem to do a pretty good job of sending guys packing.  SF is horrible about reshuffling guys and holding on to dead weight in my opinion.

Ravage
Ravage 5pts

 @JackMurphyRGR  @Iassen Donov Inserting a weird vid:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-f_kL9Y3fo&list=PL98D20466B281A272&index=1&feature=plpp_video

Tango9
Tango9 5pts

Great stuff guys.  I think your perspective will go along way to helping out some of those younger guys lurking and posting who want to be SEALs.

PatrickM
PatrickM 5pts

Longer needs to be longer

 

bogman2121
bogman2121 5pts

The title had me thinking you guys were going to talk about your experiences with sharks on either some ops or in training. If you've got any stories that are allowed to be told I'd be interested in reading them.

TheArgent
TheArgent 5pts

Im gonna have to say that it was too short again. Im just loving these stories man!

JacksonWagner
JacksonWagner 5pts

From what you said about the Academy guy, do you guys think that people from the academy are different from the other SEAls in a way? Is there anything against them? Because I want to be a SEAL (still in High School) and I was thinking long and hard about going to Annapolis. Are those academy guys treated any different? Thanks in advance for any feedback. I love these shows. Please keep em coming!

JEhrensberger
JEhrensberger 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Love this series. I could listen to you guys talk for days, real cool when brandon and chris finish each others stories. Only SEALs sit around drinking beer and reminiscing with a couple pistols sitting on the table...very cool.

Keep it up BWebb 

 

P.S are you coming around Columbus, OH for some book signings?

BukowskiLynn
BukowskiLynn 5pts

Gray Men - do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. Cool stuff.

LCpl X
LCpl X 5pts

 @BrandonWebb 

 

Any chance SOFREP and ICON will team up and custom make a SOFREP/ICON Bronco? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFSJ5ZgpSh4

 

Kinda like Jeep and RedJacket's ride:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhA4rslIvVg

 

Give Jon Ward a call, make it happen, man:

http://www.tlc4x4.com/contactus.htm

Old PH2
Old PH2 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @LCpl X  @BrandonWebb More like a SOFREP technical with a M2HB mount in the Bed.  Wicked fun.  Way better than "Pimp my ride."  Old Toyotas are not that hard to find.

LCpl X
LCpl X 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Old PH2  

 

I hear ya, man. But BW is moving up in the world and is now part of the 1%. Plus seeing Brandon in a custom of a custom ICON Bronco would just piss John Choate off. If you got it flaunt it like Mayweather offering Cotto money during his training so he and his family are comfortable, LOL! (24/7):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oodgIIDOGug

LCpl X
LCpl X 5pts

 @Recon6  @Old PH2 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7RMKq8RQj4

Recon6
Recon6 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Old PH2  @LCpl X Rec'd, miss JC and his asinine comments.  Guess his vitriolic ass got ate up!

Old PH2
Old PH2 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @LCpl X Where is JC?   I've been waiting for the weekly troll smack down.  I'm begging to miss "He who shall not be named", at least he had intelligent arguments.  You remember him, that slightly odd looking, possible member of NAMBLA?  Totally reminds me of pictures of George Michael. 

Recon6
Recon6 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Damn!  Really enjoying the conversation and then...The End!  WTF   Still great stuff from great guys!

jeffreycarr
jeffreycarr 5pts

Reading Chris's book, I hadn't realized that "Runaway" was a SEAL. Jeez.

TheArgent
TheArgent 5pts

Hey Jeff! Good to see you here man! When is your article due here?

 

Cheers,

Don (NL - CSFI)

jeffreycarr
jeffreycarr 5pts

 @TheArgent Hi Don, Jack published a couple of articles from me already. A book review of Powerful Peace and "Taking a Closer Look at Cyber Covert Actions". 

TheArgent
TheArgent 5pts

 @jeffreycarr Outstanding! I'll go and have a look!

BrandonWebb
BrandonWebb moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @jeffreycarr 1% rule

SleazyWeazel
SleazyWeazel 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BrandonWebb It amazes me that a guy like "Runaway" could progress that far through BUDS, get his Budweiser, and NOT accept and grasp the reality of the life that he had chosen to abandon his teammate in the MIDDLE OF A FIREFIGHT WHEN YOU DEPEND ON THE GUY NEXT TO YOU THE MOST!!   That, in my book frankly, is an A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E sin.  There has to be that implicit level of trust because a lot of times it can be all you have when the shit hits the fan.

jeffreycarr
jeffreycarr 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SleazyWeazel  @BrandonWebb What makes it worse is that "Runaway" pulled that stunt TWICE according to Chris's account in his book. Once when he was supposed to provide cover fire and then later when he ran from sniper duty on a rooftop. I was amazed that Chris didn't beat him down; especially after the 2nd incident.

Recon6
Recon6 5pts

 @SleazyWeazel  @BrandonWebb Copy that, the guy next to you is ALL you have.  No place to hide for a POS like that.  Still wonder how he could make it thru the entire process and then collapse?  Combat sucks, leaving your team mates is unforgivable.

Ravage
Ravage 5pts

This one got me thinking. When Kyle sais about "breaking regulations to see how far you can go with it", I most certanly hope it wasn't directed twoards safety regulations - they are there for a reason.

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

 @Ravage It's a well known fact that you can't "Keep it real" and "Keep it safe" at the same time.  Violates the laws of the universe.

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BrandonWebb
BrandonWebb moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Matt2 Sorry, we edited them all already and have they scheduled out for every week. I'll keep this in mind for the next series!!

BoxOfGridSquares
BoxOfGridSquares 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

SEAL's going OFP?!!! Say it isn't so.

 

Sadly the Corps doesn't polish boots anymore.

LCpl X
LCpl X 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Ditto. Great episode, keep 'em coming.

 

I'm tempted to camp out on this thread the whole night, just so I don't miss any of the fun in the previous episodes. Kinda frustrating when all you read are T9's comments and the rest are deleted. LOL!

Old PH2
Old PH2 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

You can't beat it, you can only play it.  Just like life, more classic squid wisdom.

ColonelProp
ColonelProp 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

That was a great episode gentlemen. Osman's golf analogy closing this one is a world-beater. Thanks again guys.

BrandonWebb
BrandonWebb moderator 5pts

 @ColonelProp you bet Colonel!

BrandonWebb
BrandonWebb moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Thanks guys. We had fun putting this together. -BW

Mitra
Mitra 5pts

I've been looking forward to this new episode and it was awesome as usual. Can't wait to see more.

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

"Breaking regs and seeing what you can get away with"....god I love this stuff

 

Another great episode, a little bit more serious this time. Good stuff BW.

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