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Home » SOFREP TV » Inside the Team Room Episode 12: Officers and Chiefs

Inside the Team Room Episode 12: Officers and Chiefs

by Brandon Webb · July 4, 2012

 

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Brandon Webb

Brandon Webb is a former U.S. Navy SEAL with combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the Middle East. His last tour in the SEAL Teams was as the Course Manager for the US Navy SEAL Sniper program, arguably one of the most difficult sniper courses in the world. He was formerly a contributing editor for Military.com, and currently the Editor-in-Chief of SOFREP.com. Brandon is regularly featured in the media as a subject matter expert on military affairs. An avid writer, his last two books (The Red Circle, & Benghazi: The Definitive Report) both hit the New York Times best seller list, and his writing has been featured in print, and digital media worldwide. You can follow him on Twitter @BrandontWebb

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JwWarehime
JwWarehime 5pts

@LauraWalkerKC iran says its closing the strait of hormuz. Looks like were going to be fucking them up soon!

LauraWalkerKC
LauraWalkerKC 5pts

@JwWarehime Iran threatens to close Hormuz every 27 days like a menstrual cycle.

JwWarehime
JwWarehime 5pts

@LauraWalkerKC nice! I love the way you put that! Lol! :-)

JwWarehime
JwWarehime 5pts

@LauraWalkerKC that is very true.

LauraWalkerKC
LauraWalkerKC 5pts

@JwWarehime It's Iran. Hard to take them seriously. I mean, we kinda have to, but they rattle saber like a baby toy.

wadea1974
wadea1974 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BrandonWebb man i could listen to u guys all day long, i have to get your book, done read Chris kyles book, could not put it down, you guys come on over to GA. sometime and I will cook you the best damn ribeye you'll ever eat!!! Then we can go shoot 1000 yds.

SEAN SPOONTS
SEAN SPOONTS 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

When I read that story in Brandon's book I wondered about the after story when they got back involving the LCDR Smith. Did he make a beef or was he intelligent enough to figure out he was out of line? I'm imagining that he would have been a little butt hurt about being overridden by Chief Dye.

BrandonWebb
BrandonWebb moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SEAN SPOONTS He took it surprisingly well although a bit embarrassed.

SEAN SPOONTS
SEAN SPOONTS 5pts

@BrandonWebb You guys were up there for a while. Did he chill out and fit in better after that? Was he the ground forces commander the whole time, or just get his ticket punched and head out? Don't want to pry, just surprised that a SDV officer could just 'attach' himself like that to an operation without having a defined slot in the mission T.O.

Old PH2
Old PH2 moderator 5pts

With some of the more technical fields I've known E-5 and E-6's that crossed over and attended OCS.  Those guys can generally be trusted, I have met a couple that were so busy trying to fit in with the other O's they couldn't be bothered to help you do your job.  Which ultimately made them look bad since it was their job to be responsible for you.  The principal of Servant Leadership was something that changed my life.  Give your subordinates the training, supplies, and guidance to do the job.  Then stand back, let them work, point out ways to do it better, but let them work it out.  Priceless advice for a leader.  

Ben K
Ben K 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Seems like it's the same wherever you go.  What's that thing they always say - oh yeah, that NCOs are the backbone of the Army.  I'm sure the Marines feel the same.  It's frightening how much insanity goes on in the Officer corps sometimes, like in The Red Circle.  You hear all the time about how the O's have it drilled into their heads that a bad decision can get people killed, and then you hear the stories and you wonder - were they not paying attention or did they just forget?  I want to believe the majority of Officers aren't like that.  On a related note, I picked up Yellow Green Beret the other day for more tangled web, officer-related shenanigans within the ranks of our ODAs.  Been an entertaining read so far.

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

 @Ben K Conversely these same guys are so risk-averse that they hesitate on making command decisions believing that their saving lives when in fact they are assisting (unintentionally, but killing someone unintentionally is no excuse either) in the loss of their soldiers. I'm a civie, so while I may not have earned that right to my opinion on this, I will say that after reading about Operation Anaconda and the severe heroism that was displayed by the AFSOC personnel, Rangers, and SEALs it leaves the reader extremely disturbed and disconcerted to know that the Commander Who Shall Remain Unnamed probably was quietly forced out but should have faced court martial for severe lack of leadership. It concerns me that their are men and women like that Commander (no matter how few of them there might be) still in charge of our service people's lives.  

NelsonJr
NelsonJr 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I say that after the last episode, Brandon needs to run one long, continuous video so it can be watched in one 45-60 minute sitting. This is absolutely great stuff.

Tango9
Tango9 moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Great episode, Brandon.  For those of us that have read the books, we know the stories, but hearing you tell it adds a good bit.  Thanks man.

kevinnash69
kevinnash69 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

same thing applies for all branches of the military. you get smart ass and arrogant LTs from westpoint, annapolis etc...and they dont  listen to suggestions by the sergeants

Connor31
Connor31 5pts

 @kevinnash87 Inflated Egos...

kevinnash69
kevinnash69 5pts

 @Connor31  @kevinnash87

 yep

JoeL2000
JoeL2000 5pts

 @kevinnash87 Very few of those Academy grads are like that...Chris Cassidy who is so lauded in this video is a USNA graduate. LCDR Erik Kristensen was a USNA graduate as well.

 

Ravage
Ravage 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I remember watching a docu about the Teams loooong ago. It was titled "Navy SEALs: Warriors of the Night" (yeah, really...), it had Marcinko, BUD/S and a VBBS op in it.If I'm not mistaken, there are at least two SEAL Os that went to space: one of them being Will Sheppard - talk about space shuttle door gunner =]

 

kterris
kterris 5pts

 @Ravage I had a geology professor my freshman year, that was a Seal in the late '80's and early '90's. He ended up getting his  PhD in planetary geology and was in the astronaut corps. He never went up but he was one of the best teachers i've had.

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

 @Ravage Lt. Cmdr. Christopher "Chris" Cassidy is the second one that you were thinking of.

 

Old PH2
Old PH2 moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Abso-Fuckin Lutely!  USN CPO's are the AUTHORITY in the USN.  Like anywhere you'll get a turd once in a while but almost universally the CPO's of the USN have their shit wired tight.  Cotton Kills, I don't know who said it first but the man is a fuckin genius.  That part of being in the Navy and having enough sense not to do the Fucked up Shit some young O tells you to do, most folks don't have a clue how often that happens.  As an E-5 that filled an E-7 billet I understand what those old dogs do for us.  

 

If I can figure out how to get the I-tune thingy to work I'll help give you another five stars.  Fuckin Technology ☺

HugeFan
HugeFan moderator 5pts

The title says it all. In fact, you don't need SEALs to tell you that. If you asked the CNO who was primarily to thank for the efficiency of the Navy, I'm 90% sure he would say: "The Chiefs". In AFROTC, our AS100 Mentor, Maj. Koon asked pointedly who ran the Air Force. We all gave the typical AF Chief of Staff, your direct CO, etc. but he just shook his head and said, "The Chiefs run the Air Force, them and anyone at or above E-7." He was telling us snot-nosed-wannabe-Iron Eagle aces that our rank wouldn't count for shit after completion of the program. How prophetic! Now that I work with the Navy, I skip Mr. Butter Bars and move right to the guy smoking and drinking a Super Big Gulp of coffee. That man right there is your Chief and that's your man with answers. Officers have their place but senior NCO's make it happen.

AR18X
AR18X 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I love this series. I just wish you guys would do an Army SF one too.

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