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Home » Black Ops & Intel » The Legend and Truth of Jerry “Mad Dog” Shriver

The Legend and Truth of Jerry “Mad Dog” Shriver

by Jack Murphy · October 1, 2012 · Posted In: Black Ops & Intel, SOF History, USASOC
The Legend and Truth of Jerry Mad Dog Shriver
If you read much fiction about Vietnam, or even watch movies about it, chances are you’ll frequently bump into a character who has become a stereotype of the subgenre. This stereotype was rarely, if ever, seen in film or fiction before Vietnam.

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The character is eccentric on his good days; psychotic the rest of the time. He is almost oblivious to regulations, protocol, rank and military traditions. He wouldn’t last a day in a professional military force…if he wasn’t such an effective killing machine in the bush.

He is almost a super-soldier when in the field. He’s got the hearing and smell of a dog, the vision of an eagle and the lives of a cat. His instincts are far beyond Sgt. Rock’s “combat antenna.” He’s fearless in battle, probably because there’s nobody as scary as him on the battlefield. He’s rarely seen in garrison, but when he is, he’s a peacetime/rear echelon sergeant-major’s nightmare.

In short, he’s not so much a soldier as a warrior. And he’s probably as insane as the Vietnam War itself. At least he seems so to your average civilian.

Turns out this stereotype had an archetype…or prototype, if you will.

This recurring character is strikingly similar to (or perhaps a caricature of) the real-life special operators on the SOG teams and various reconnaissance projects in Vietnam. And the most legendary (and archetypal) of those operators was Jerry “Mad Dog” Shriver.

Paul Longgrear, who served with Shriver and wore his Montagnard bracelet for years after Vietnam, says, “To have met Shriver did not necessarily mean you KNEW Shriver.”

Paul Longgrear WoundedOften the cold mo-fos in combat are milquetoast or even couch potato-looking individuals. But Mad Dog’s eyes tended to give people an accurate impression of his personality. Longgrear went on to say, “I figured he had an Oriental mom. His dad was retired AF. His eyes were squinty and hollow, almost cold blooded.”

This was not the “Thousand-Yard Stare” you may have heard about. Mad Dog wasn’t spaced-out or oblivious to anything going on around him. By all accounts he remained sharp and focused right to the end. But more on that a little later.

Earlier in 2012 I read Above and Beyond, a novel of Vietnam written by Special Forces Vietnam veteran Jim Morris. I encountered another of these whacked-out warrior characters while reading it, this one named “Shoogie.” In a subsequent interview with the author, I asked who Shoogie was based on. That’s how I was introduced to the legend of Mad Dog.

It’s a legend worth passing on. I’ll start with a dialog, of sorts, between me and Jim Morris.

Jim Morris in his war correspondent daysJIM: …I was surprised to learn that you were unacquainted with the legend of Mad Dog Shriver.

First let me put this guy in context:

In the Spring of ’68 I was IO (PAO) of the 5th SFGA in Nha Trang, RVN. A couple of guys came into my offices to visit one of my NCOs. I had never met soldiers quite like them. Added to their basic uniform was the oddest collection of gear and barbaric ornamentation I had yet encountered.

They were lean and rangy. Their berets clung to their heads at an angle that screamed “Fuck You!” Multiple Montagnard bracelets clinked up and down their arms as they moved about.

One had a beaded Sedang necklace tight around his neck. Their watches were mounted on black leather cuffs with a black cover snapped over the face of the watch to prevent its glow from giving away their position. One wore a locally purchased Bowie knife hammered out of a truck spring that was the size of a small machete.

Turned out they were from SF recon Project Omega at Ban Me Thuot. They were hard dudes and projected a very clear don’t-give-a-shit attitude. All my subsequent contacts with recon were somewhat peripheral.

By Hank Brown, Jim Morris and John L. Plaster, with Paul Longgrear

Read the rest at Virtual Pulp Press.

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Richard Sciaroni
Richard Sciaroni 5pts

I was an artillery FO with a 175mm/8" battery at Plei Djereng.  I served as an FO with project Omega, and on one patrol spent one patrol with Jerry Shriver in the Plei Trap Valley.  He was an impressive soldier and appeared absolutlry fearless under fire. 

shooten
shooten 5pts

Crazy or not, the guy had big ones.  Thanks for the history lesson.

wvbalrog
wvbalrog 5pts

Jerry Shriver and Dave Davidson more time across the wire than anyone.

Robertkyle
Robertkyle 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

@JackMurphyRGR I first got exposed to stories of this hero by one of my TAC's during Robin sage.  My TAC who happened to be one of the last surviving Son Tay Raiders use to give out his "Mad-Dog" award for anyone that happened to be tactically proficient e.g. "killing" a lot of opfor with blanks or in my case by spear tackling the local sheriff.  At the end of the exercise one of us got the nerve to ask what the hell inspired the mad-dog award.  He talked for close to 45 minutes about this larger than life character.  He mentioned a time when the bartender for their bar (crazy to think they had a bar) fed his dog Klaus beer.   The dog got sick and took a shit on the floor so the bartender rubbed his nose in it and threw him out the door.   A furious Mad-Dog walks in, drinks a beer, puts his .38 on the table, drops his pants to his ankles and takes a shit of his own.  He sits down and looks at the bartender and says something along the lines of "Come rub my nose in it, I dare you."  What a complete and utter bad ass right?      

 

If you guys want to read more about Mad-Dog I recommend a book called SOG by Major John Plaster (Ret.)  Same guy that wrote the Ultimate Sniper

shagstar
shagstar 5pts

 @Robertkyle  @JackMurphyRGR i worked on FT.BRAGG during the early 90's thru end of 2001 and lived in a trailer in DUNDARRCH,NC just SW of RAEFORD!  i can still remember you crazy fuckers running around during you're ROBIN SAGE evolution raising hell with all the law dogs and always helping yourselves too the hotwings and water i always set out for y'all,,,!!  too fucking funny!  

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator 5pts

 @Robertkyle  @JackMurphyRGR I've spoken to a couple people who kept their distance from Mad Dog because they knew he was nuts!

Riceball
Riceball 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @JackMurphyRGR  @Robertkyle Nuts or not, Mad Dog was definitely someone I'd want near me if I ever had to go into the bush, esp. in SOG type missions. From what the article said about him I'd say that your chances of coming out alive from a given mission were much better with him than without him and whether or not he was officially Special Forces they should definitely keep his memory alive and teach about him in Special Forces training. For that matter, they should be teaching about him all SpecOps schools because that man really defined what it means to be a SpecOps warrior and we couldn't certainly use a few more like him.

 

Imagine how scared terrorists would be if we had a few more Mad Dogs in SOCOM and word got out to them that we had a bunch of Mad Dogs running around loose and on their trail? I bet you that they would have many a sleepless nights worrying being found by one of our Mad Dogs and just hearing rumors of that would make me sleep better at night. We should have at least one in every SEAL team, SF team, Delta unit, MARSOC platoon, etc. and let them loose in Afghanistan and the tribal regions of Pakistan and just let them go to work with a very long leash.

Recon6
Recon6 moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Riceball   I can recall my return from the war and the difficulty I had in the units I was assigned, unless they were Infantry oriented.  Particularly from Officers that had Not been in the war!  I was told more than once that we combat vets felt we were entitled to "special treatment" because we had been "there"!

The war was over and I just knew I was headed for trouble unless I bailed, so I did.  I wanted a career, but SFC was as far as I could go due to legal issues over clearances from my earlier service.

I always attempted to transfer, "lessons learned" but only when they would be appreciated.....6

Robertkyle
Robertkyle 5pts

 @Riceball  @JackMurphyRGR 

There are groups of people out there that no-one in the media know about. There are rumors of the activity, and the "Army of Northern Virginia" (ask Jack to make a post about those guys) raising hell overseas with little or no media spotlight.

 

I think the rotation from operations to training happens everywhere.  I know in the USASOC when you do three years worth of deploying and you re-up you get rotated back to SWC to teach in the q-course.  There is also some serious cross-coordination between SWC and AWG (Asymmetric Warfare Group).  The AWG then takes what they learn and teach regular Army units.   

Riceball
Riceball 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Robertkyle  @JackMurphyRGR You're probably right, with today's PC environment and with too many people being more concerned about their careers than with getting the job done, not to mention the media scrutiny your Mad Dog types wouldn't last very long in today's military. But we really need to figure out a way to keep these people out of the spotlight of the media and a way to somehow keep them sane and out of trouble when in garrison. We really need these types of people for not only when we have bad guys needing to be killed but also for training the next generation of warriors, they possess knowledge that would incalculable for not only helping future warriors in learning ways and methods to better accomplish their missions but also in staying alive.

 

Speaking of staying alive, I'm reminded of a part in the full article about Mad Dog and how he gave some advice to a new soldier on how to survive in the bush. I think that the Marine Corps got it right, in part, in not making MARSOC & Recon a career path but having rotate out occasionally to teach what they know and have learned to line infantry units. I think it may be worth it for Army & Marine spec ops people to either occasionally rotate out to regular line units so they can pass on some of their skills and knowledge or at the least conduct regular workshops taught by SOCOM to teach young Soldiers and Marines useful fighting and survival skills that may not be taught in regular infantry schooling. Some commanders may not like it because of a lack of understanding or dislike of spec ops units but that sort of thing could be very useful and because you soldiers and Marines often look up to these people they might learn better because it comes from a spec ops warrior.

Robertkyle
Robertkyle 5pts

 @Riceball  @JackMurphyRGR There is way to much media attention now days.  We are literally just getting all the facts about SOG and Mad-Dog-esqe type operators from that time frame.  Now days JSOC and SOCOM are under the media microscope thanks to political jockeying in D.C.  We could only wish for these types of characters, but sadly I don't think they would survive in garrison or back on American soil with the way the military is set up.  I completely agree with you though. 

ColonelProp
ColonelProp 5pts

You know .... Isn't this the base definition of Koevoet(sic)? Always need a crowbar but really don't know where to keep it when not in use.

ColonelProp
ColonelProp 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Yes!!!! Mad-Dog, and some shouts to Virtual Pulp Press...another winner.

ajgamble
ajgamble 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Damn Jack I woulda figured you for hearing of Mad Dog before Morris' book since you are such a well-read and traveled guy. I read "Fighting Men", an anthology of Morris' articles he wrote throughout his career, some appeared in SOF mag back in the day apparently. I was hooked by the vivid and personal stories he recounted, and the truth was def stranger than the fiction...It's a great read for anyone interested in early SF and Army culture, and it spans from the Korean war to Desert Storm and was one of the first books I read about SF 10 years ago....

 

My father would tell me stories as a kid about Mad Dog Shriver that he heard from his friends and I especially liked them bc of Mad Dog's German Shepherd, the same dog I had as a kid and would take him with me in the fields and woods and play Army. Looking back on it now, my dad or whoever told him the stories embellished the shit out of that part by telling me how the dog would grab gooks in the jungle and riip their arms off, be able to alert them to Charlie etc. But I'll be damned if a 6 yr old kid with a pellet gun and a huge German Shephard didn't run covert ops in the fields and woods on the farm and got in trouble in 1st grade for calling a kid in class a  "gook". Gotta love fatherly inluence on young boys.

SGT Dan
SGT Dan 5pts

@ajgamble, in '96 I talked to a guy who'd been at CCS when the mission into the Parrot's Beak looking for the COSVN HQ launched. This was 24 April 1969, the mission on which Jerry went missing and was more than likely killed. He told me Jerry gave Klaus away before the mission. He knew he wasn't coming back.


ajgamble
ajgamble 5pts

Belay that, I see Jack re-printed the article and was not the actual author so I guess I was right that he def heard about Shriver's legend.

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