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PREVIEW – Benghazi: The Definitive Report

by SOFREP · January 26, 2013 · Posted In: Admin
PREVIEW – Benghazi: The Definitive Report
The deadly attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, symbolically coinciding with the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, triggered in a confluence of events that spilled into US domestic politics, military covert operations, and a number of classified CIA programs. With the terrorist strike occurring in the run up the US Presidential election, it become a foregone conclusion that the truth of the attacks would be swept up and lost in political squabbling as both major parties jockeyed for position and get some cheap digs in on their opponents. Added to the media circus was the reality that various US government institutions and agencies did engage in a very real cover up: they responsibly tried to keep covert operations secret. But they also sought to limit political liability on the guilty parties whose negligence led to the attack in the first place.

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Conservatives claimed that President Obama callously denied military reinforcements to American forces on the ground in Libya who were badly outnumbered and outgunned. The American right sought to portray Obama in the most negative light possible, accusing him of glossing over the attacks to compensate for foreign policy failures. The narrative went, “President Obama: not tough on terrorism and betrayer of US Navy SEALs.”

Liberals decried the Republican persecution, doing damage control by laying blame on forces beyond the administration’s control. According to this narrative, the Benghazi attack happened because of an irresponsible amateur film that defamed the Prophet Muhammad, inflaming the religious fervor of the Islamic world. Soon protests formed outside US embassies across the Middle East, and the series of events rapidly reached its bloody climax in the attack on the US consulate in Libya.

For their part, libertarians announced that the attacks were further proof that America had no business interfering in the affairs of foreign countries. Meanwhile, conspiracy theorists pointed towards a sinister plot by powerful dark forces to liquidate Ambassador Stevens. In fact, every party commenting or involved in the Benghazi affair seemed to refer to their opposition as conspiracy theorists in order to de-legitimize their position at some point.

This e-book intends to cut through the static and white noise generated by the media pundits, the partisan politics, and unfounded conspiracy theories. The truth does involve some conspiracy. After all, the major players were the CIA, Pentagon, Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), and State Department – institutions synonymous with backroom politics, intelligence gathering, and covert operations. But this report points in directions and draws conclusions that have henceforth been completely neglected by both the mainstream and alternative media.

When it comes to the hidden world of terrorists, counter-terrorists, and spies, the truth usually is stranger than fiction. Because of this, many will find the facts unfolded in this e-book to be both uncomfortable and unsatisfying. Obama’s foes will see a picture emerge in which the President is far from a callous evil man. Those passionate supporters of the President will be angry to see Obama as aloof and rather ineffective as a leader. Both political parties will be disappointed to see that this story, the 9/11 Benghazi attack, really doesn’t involve the President all that much one way or the other.

This is the reality of the modern state. The bureaucratic machinery is as extensive and sprawling as it is expensive. Various governmental agencies act under their own authority and make their own decisions. Mid and high level officials make decisions and latch onto the levers of power. With the Department of Defense running highly complex operations all over the globe, twenty four hours a day, there is no other way for American power to be projected effectively if every bureaucrat is waiting for the President to bless off on his actions. The power to act has to be delegated down the chain of command: this is a crucial–and cautionary–aspect of this story.

However, it cannot be overstated that this e-book does not cop-out or shirk away from the truth by placing blame on the dulled mechanics of a faulty bureaucracy. We do not accuse some abstract technical detail, saying that bad intelligence or faulty communications led to the Benghazi debacle. Americans have heard enough of these types of excuses from the original 9/11 attacks to the 2008 housing bubble and subsequent economic crash. We name names and hold accountable those acted cowardly and those who erred and sought to protect their political careers at the expense of human lives.

We also point to the heroes, men of tremendous character who showed exemplary physical and moral courage the night of the attack.

The story, and the aftermath, of the Benghazi attack is a complex series of events involving insider politics between agencies in proverbial smoke filled rooms. It features double-dealing political players in Washington. It involves the interaction between different military units and para-military organizations. To the outsider, to the American public, it is all very complicated and strange. This is another reason why the full story has not yet been articulated to Americans, but we believe that an informed public is necessary in a functioning democracy.

This e-book was written with the consultation of over a dozen experts, former Special Operations personnel (many of them contributing editors of SOFREP.com), and others privy to inside information in the halls of power in Washington, DC. For obvious reasons, their identities cannot be revealed. This is likely to be the definitive account of the Benghazi attack for years to come until historians can sift through the archives, get documents declassified, and interview all of the participants.

For now, we hope that this e-book tells it like it is. In these pages the actions of those involved speak for themselves. Let the chips fall where they may.

*****

This is the Prologue to our upcoming book Benghazi: The Definitive Report, available on Amazon.com Feb. 12, 2013. SOFREP Team Room members will enjoy an advance release of the book as we publish it in its entirety over the next two weeks. Join  Team Room today and take advantage of this special offer.

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After completing Benghazi: The Definitive Report... I realized my resentful political rants about the Administration, more or less murdering Ambassador Stevens, S. Smith, T. Woods, & G. Doherty were not only media stained... They were flat out incorrect. This operation rippled all the way to the top and stemmed far beyond Obama. The Editors at sofrep.com, B. Webb & J. Murphy, give the reader a timeline that begins years before the Benghazi massacre. Leaving the audience to ponder... Is the Benghazi massacre the tip of iceberg and what devastations will unfold in Our Nations future? The nobility and courage Our SEALs embody is what Our Nation is forged on. Brandon and Jack did a phenomenal job without exposing sacred military detail. While leaving the audience to ponder... “The lesson to Americans is clear in this case: take what you hear with a grain of salt and always question the narratives, and the backgrounds of the authors whose stories are being sold to you. Even if it is coming from your favorite source of trusted news. None of these outlets constitutes a paragon of truthfulness.” Excerpt From: Brandon Webb & Jack Murphy. “Benghazi.” HarperCollins, 2013-02-01. iBooks. This material may be protected by copyright. Check out this book on the iBookstore: https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/benghazi/id596503720?mt=11 Thank you SOFREP. Nicole Stokes

RedWanderer
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NEWS FLASH:  Secretary Hillary Clinton makes parting shot about Benghazi during her last day as Secretary of State.  She said those who are criticizing the Benghazi incident "don't live in an evidence-based world."  Yes, those were her words.

 

It should be spectacularly entertaining to see her reaction to Brandon's and Jack's new book, especially after THAT quote.

 

 

majrod
majrod 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @RedWanderer red, you just have to consider the source.  Frankly her comments don't deserve much comment after "what does it matter".  Hillary will be permanently tarnished by Benghazi though her army of apologists will be busy when that comes around again in 2015.

 

Panetta's appearance next week and the SOFREP book are much more likely to deserve comment and discussion. 

 

 @AUNITEDPEOPLE Nice avatar!  :)

 

AUNITEDPEOPLE
AUNITEDPEOPLE 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @RedWanderer Fox News panel, "The real winner this week is HC because she dodged (everything she said she was responsible for)..." Good God! Just WTF!

ArcticWarrior
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 @RedWanderer

 No real surprise. Sad.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @ArcticWarrior  @RedWanderer No, not really, just really bad taste. But, like you said, no surprise there. Seems that narcissism is the theme of the day...

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @RedWanderer I just heard the same thing and I'm sorry, I do have respect for the men and women that server our country, both militarily and in public service, but there was NO need to make that comment, even if that's the way she feels, that was a total disrespect for the men who gave their lives on that dark day.

 

I have to stop here or else I might get banned for calling her exactly what she is...

RedWanderer
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Ok, m-rod, if you get here before I get back, just start reading. :)  And posting.

ArcticWarrior
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 @majrod  Sir you're needed on the floor.....

majrod
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 @ArcticWarrior wassup?  It's been a relationship maintenance day here at the house.

 

RedWanderer
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 @majrod  @ArcticWarrior Hey mrod.  There you are.  We were talking about the Embassy attack today (the 8th on HC's watch) and we were talking about how the CINC is MIA, and how we could probably do a better job right here on this thread than the shadow group running the White House.  We wuzz strategizing....jump in when you get the time. :)  I'm sure you have some thoughts.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @majrod  @RedWanderer Gotta love the consolationprizes they give out these days!

majrod
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 @RedWanderer  Oh I agree.  The muslim world sees us as weak.  It's open season on the US and our interests.  We will NOT commit substantial military foirce in any of these nations.  Heck, sending a couple dozen F16s and 200 M1s to Egypt as thanks for letting our embassy be invaded and our flag replaced with Al Qaeda's.

 

RedWanderer
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LOL, touche on the bars.

 

Scroll down even further if you have time.  What da ya think about the bigger picture....N. Africa and the Middle East......  I personally think the foreign policy house of cards is going to collapse because we're so weak and will be stretched too thinly ...and will be in a react mode, not proactive enough mode.

majrod
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 @RedWanderer  Not much to add.

 

My gut says the attack is either Iran or Syria trying to intimidate us or expand the conflict.

 

Turkey will suppress reporting.  They're embarrassed and would never want to admit AQ or Iranian elements conducting attacks in their country.

 

Little comment from the administration except they called it terrorism quick.  Funny, not a squek when they breached the wall at the consulate in Benghazi.

 

The press will report more because Ankara has better bars than Benghazi.

 

 

@ArcticWarrior

 

RedWanderer
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 @ArcticWarrior  @majrod LOL, AW.  You should jump in here too.  We've decided the Commander in Chief is MIA so we're playing the role (collectively that is) which can't be much worse than the idiots in the shadows actually doing it.  LIke Jarrod, et al.

RedWanderer
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Majrod, where are you, LOL?  You'd be great in this discussion! 

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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Anyone know anything about the Aegis Defense Services? Seems that there is some trouble stewing at our Kabul embassy that they are contracted to protect. (citing a Fox News report)

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/31/us-kabul-embassy-still-security-threat-report-finds/

 

 

RedWanderer
RedWanderer 5pts

@AUNITEDPEOPLE. AUP, I noticed in your profile there's a Hagel thread but I can't find it on SOFREP. Is that actually on SOFREP...does anyone know? I definitely wanted to comment about the cluster fuck.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @RedWanderer No, the Hagel stuff is from Foreign Policy website (which works seamlessly with LiveFyre). It's a cluster f*ck over there though. Most of the articles on him are slanted heavily in his favor and the people commenting are hurling insults back and forth about being Zionist, or anti-Zionist, or traitors, just not a lot of real dialogue going on. There have been some good comments, then they just fall off the cliff.

 

Here's some links:

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/01/31/hagel_loses_more_gop_votes_due_to_hearing

 

http://e-ring.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/01/31/hagel_faces_hostile_sometimes_awkward_gop_opposition_in_confirmation_hearing

 

http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/01/29/ten_questions_for_chuck_hagel

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @RedWanderer  No problem, glad I could help. There are some smart people on there where you can actually have a conversation, but there's a lot of nutjobs on there too.

RedWanderer
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@AUNITEDPEOPLE OH thanks, that explains a lot. Thx again for explaining the livefyre overlap.

RedWanderer
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@AUNITEDPEOPLE. Aegis never provided personal security detail for me but they did provide for a number of my colleagues in Iraq and they were extremely sharp. Some of the folks on here who've been PSDs themselves may disagree, but in my last assignment I had to walk through where they sorta "garrisoned" every day and they were like a well-oiled machine.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @RedWanderer Well that's good to know and I wasn't trying in any way to disrespect those guys. The article seemed to be pointing towards leadership being the problem and not the operators on the ground, they were the ones complaining about their conditions. And now that the f*cking world knows about these issues, I just hope those guys don't suffer because of this.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @RedWanderer Oh I'm sure that Aegis was probably begging for some more support.

 

And, ironically, that was one of the arguments I made over at Foreign Policy about the SoD should be someone that actually had experience in the field, so they would understand not only the operational aspects, but the overall global aspects of what we need to do to adapt to the changing geo-political/warfare situations, which seems to be changing weekly these days.

 

If you look back at Socrates and the Republic, there was a reason why the military had it's own special place and say in his 'ideal' society!

RedWanderer
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Here, here, AUP.  Here, here.  When I was in Iraq the first time, they asked me to go take the COR classes (Contracting Officer Rep) because they had a shortage, and let me tell you guys, that is definitely a week link in the fence.  Or one of many but I was suprised more people weren't hollaring about Lamb getting to make what I considered decisions a security expert with combat experience should be making.  Not to pile on her because the govt makes people take on contracting duties that probably shouldn't - but they have a huge shortage so.....

 

It's another one of our strategic problems.  The procurement issue.  Which sounds completely consistent with this Aegis thing.  I'd bet you a ton of money Aegis kept asking for more.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @RedWanderer  Oh absolutely! No doubt about it. you can smell the bureaucratic droppings all over this! Requests for more personnel denied, now that doesn't sound familiar!

RedWanderer
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@AUNITEDPEOPLE I think that issue also has to do with idiot contract officers who are given so much power to "run the war."

mswimsfla
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 @AUNITEDPEOPLE 

I don't know if they are directly related, but SHTF at our Embassy in Turkey as well.

 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_TURKEY_US_EXPLOSION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-02-01-07-18-16

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @mswimsfla Revised previous assessment: That was just a security check point building, the compound is actually quite large. Still would be difficult to stop something like that from happening.

 

Goggle map: Remzi Oğuz Arık Mh., Nevzat Tandoğan Cd No:2, 06105 Ankara, Turkey

It's the L shaped building below this point, surrounded by trees and fences.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
AUNITEDPEOPLE 5pts

 @mswimsfla  @RedWanderer "...even as a back door into the United States." And that, to me, is the truly troubling part in all this.

 

But in the least it give a new source of funding to the Islamic elements in this region and they have no moral issues at all with helping the drug dealers get their product to people they already hate, since the drugs are actually doing harm to their enemy, it's a win-win for them.

 

Good article!

mswimsfla
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 @RedWanderer  @AUNITEDPEOPLE  

 

I just came across a rather interesting article that basically summarizes everything we said a few weeks ago regarding our predictions about Africa. It is a piece published by Borderland Beat regarding Islamic Jihad militants who control the Sahel Region (which includes Senegal, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan) smuggling the S. American drug cartels drugs across their lands as a new path into the European Union and even as a back door into the United States.

 

Nobody denies the fact that government instability is a huge issue in that region right now. What is scary is when you consider this fact of instability, coupled with the knowledge that the beneficiaries of this new-found wealth are driven by a religion that demands death and oppression to anyone who is not one of them (and oftentimes, even if you are!)--even to the point of committing suicide if necessary--makes this region fertile breeding ground for a whole new breed of disaster. And I'm talking the likes of which would make the Ayatollah on his best day, Saddam on his worst day, and the Taliban on any other day seem like Boy Scouts. Look at what has happened to the internal security of Mexico because of this new-found wealth. I will remind you that Mexico was not an originating source of narcotics but, like Sahel Region now, started out strictly as a super highway for the traffickers.

 

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2013/02/jihadists-and-latin-american-drug.html

oldSquid(Mafia)
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 @RedWanderer

 yepper. They've been around for a day or two.. and might have some s**t figgered out.

RedWanderer
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 @mswimsfla  @JackMurphyRGR  @AUNITEDPEOPLE  @oldSquid LMAO, that one made me roll in the floor laughing.  Seriously though, if you haven't worked with a bunch of anarchists in these tech companies like I have, they actually believe in this type of mgt, or LACK of mgt.  They think it's a superior mgt system.  That's why AOL finally almost fell apart until Time Warner finally had to come save them and institute some old fashioned mgt, LOL.

mswimsfla
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 @RedWanderer  @JackMurphyRGR  @AUNITEDPEOPLE  @oldSquid The only advantage of "leading from the back of the bus" is that you're not the one taking damage when you wreck head on.

RedWanderer
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 @mswimsfla  @JackMurphyRGR  @AUNITEDPEOPLE  @oldSquid Agree, mswim.  And speaking of management, the old chain of command philosophy of mgt is considered outdated, and I know you folks from the SOF community do well in what some I worked for (as a contractor) described as the "star" approach (I'm prob not getting it right but def not chain of command).  In the business world where I've recently spent more time also hates the chain of command structure and love their matrix management approach, but I have to tell you that I think there's nothing better than chain of command, providing there's only about three layers, but at least there's on head on the snake to make decisions.

 

Obama reminds me of all my tech friends - like the CIO I worked for at AOL- who used to aways talk about leading from behind the back of the bus.

 

I think that's what he's doing, in addition to  his incompetence, and I think it's a complete recipe for disaster.

mswimsfla
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 @JackMurphyRGR  @AUNITEDPEOPLE  @oldSquid  @RedWanderer Of course he is. That gives him the advantage of appearing to get the job done (regardless of how shoddy and patchwork the job is finished) while also affording him the ability to be removed from incidents that get sideways. As anyone who has ever worked in management knows, it's the most piss poor way to manage. 

 

I think we all understand that you cannot run such a vast, sprawling entity that is as complex as the Executive Branch of our government and have your finger on every little decision that must be made, but there is also the other end of the extreme, which is where I believe O has been operating as of late. His thumb is not on the pulse of our foreign affairs, and nor has it been. His first term has largely been a domestic affairs presidency, for better or for worse. 

RedWanderer
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 @JackMurphyRGR  @AUNITEDPEOPLE  @oldSquid  @mswimsfla Plus another thing guys is that we have a very fragile global economy, just made worse by the news the US economy is contracting (ripple effect) and it's in everyone's interest, to include even Chiina and Russia these days, for the global economy not to go tango uniform. 

 

It's in everyone's interest except for guess who though?  AQ, and Militant Islam.

RedWanderer
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 @JackMurphyRGR  @AUNITEDPEOPLE  @oldSquid  @mswimsfla Right - one of the many reasons I think there's no strategy.  All piecemeal.  No head to the dragon.  The absolute antithesis of leadership, and what happens when there is none. 

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @JackMurphyRGR  Well, if that's the case, we truly are screwed! Sorry, I was confusing domestic policy with foreign policy. Thanks for showing me the error of my ways! lol

RedWanderer
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LOL, Old Squid, those 6 Chinese words are very VERY profound.  Those Chinese understand one or two things about the world.  They're true BTDTs, LOL.

JackMurphyRGR
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 @AUNITEDPEOPLE  @oldSquid  @RedWanderer  @mswimsfla He isn't mircomanaging, he is actually doing the exact opposite by over delegating tasks and removing himself from the decision making process.  Unelected political appointees are largely calling the shots themselves.

RedWanderer
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 @AUNITEDPEOPLE  @mswimsfla Regarding N Africa then Mali, etc and drones in Niger, etc.... problem is we don't have the political will to be truly proactive.  In my opinion, we're going to be sucked in.

RedWanderer
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 @mswimsfla  @AUNITEDPEOPLE IN other words, I see a bigggg shit storm over Africa and the Middle East with our resources spread thinly.

RedWanderer
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 @mswimsfla  @AUNITEDPEOPLE Well, UAP and Mswim, I pretty much agree with what both of your are sayingwhen looking at individual pieces of the puzzle (especially about Africa the bigger concern) (although I think Israel-Iran is going to be bigger little later because of the impact on global economy)....but what my concern now is that I sense a convergence of the bad guys.  I'm not saying it's a convergence on purpose necessarily, but a convergence nonetheless over too many places in Africa and the Mid East and it's leading to thinning of our resources which is scaring the crap out of me - because I believe we don't have a strategy.  I believe we're doing piecemeal.  And we're on their turf.  So even if all the hotspots are not formally coordinated by the bad guys, they can take advantage as if they were, and though they're not running all the ops, it's not that hard to take a big map of the region and put stickpins on it and see how to take advantage of it.

 

I think we're definitely at a disadvantage.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @mswimsfla  @RedWanderer I'm also getting the feeling, based on the rhetoric I have heard, that Iran and more so, Russia, are staring to pull back a little bit from the Syrian situation. I think they, especially Russia, see Syria is going to be a lost cause. I believe that Russia, after all this plays out, doesn't want to draw any more attention to itself and their hardline regime, for the pure reason to keep them 'off the radar'.

 

But to your point, I would tend to mostly agree, picking Egypt as the starting point, but N Africa has become the new Middle East when it comes to AQ. As for the rest of the region, we'll just have to see how the French do in Mali. We did just get an agreement for a UAV station over there, so that will at least help with intelligence, but strike capabilities with drones will be limited at best.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @oldSquid    @RedWanderer  @mswimsfla It's a well know fact that O is a micromanging freak, so this is really not surprising. And now we have Kerry as our new SoS so no telling if we just went from the frying pan and into the fire!

mswimsfla
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 @AUNITEDPEOPLE  @RedWanderer It's my general thoughts that Syria has too much going on internally to really worry too much about any bombing inside their territory. After all, it's not really "their" territory anymore, anyway. Look at all the VIP skipping town. If any blow back comes regarding Syria, it would have to come from Iran (unlikely, regardless of the talking heads, IMO) or Russia (which is also unlikely, considering their PM publicly distancing themselves from Syria as of late). Likewise, Israel has been an issue since days of old, and their skirmishes as of recent have historically lasted a matter of days more than of years. So where does that leave us? My money is on Africa. There is a lot going on in such a relatively small area, and we've already seen it begin to unravel in big ways. This is just my opinion, and where I would place my money if I were a betting man.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @RedWanderer    @mswimsfla  Sounds good Red! I think Egypt will go first. It's hard to pick between Syria and N Africa, but I am leaning towards Syria, as N Africa in general has active operations going on there with the French and the fact that Israel just bombed inside their territory. As far as Iran and Israel are concerned, well, when that goes, it'll really be on then!

oldSquid(Mafia)
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@AUNITEDPEOPLE @RedWanderer @mswimsfla wha tdo you expect when we have a president that can't find his ass with both hands and a roadmap (let alone a set of... fortitude) when it comes to foreign policy and anadminstration that's full of bookeaters with no basis for reality other than college papers? We are living the Chinese curse "may you live in interesting times"...

RedWanderer
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@AUNITEDPEOPLE @mswimsfla Yeah, AUP, we should do predictions here and compare it to govt predictions when the shit hits the fan. And I've no doubt the shit's about to hit the fan. I mean N. Africa, Syria (with chem WMD) Egypt, and soon the Israeli-Iran nuke situation are all very delicate and all it's going to take is pulling that piece of thread from the ball for it to unravel even faster than anyone in our Admin can anticipate.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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@mswimsfla@RedWanderer  That is what really astonished me by this story and why I wanted to share it here. Overworked, undertrained (in so much as keeping sharp on the gun, because I know these guys are highly trained) and, so it sounds, incompetence in leadership (as reported), a recipe for disaster, especially now that is public knowledge!

RedWanderer
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@mswimsfla @AUNITEDPEOPLE @JackMurphyRGR Yep. Though I think even intel folks are drowning in so much information that it's hard for them to cut through the noise to see the picture, or the value of certain things sometimes. And lay folks (like Fox) understand the value even less - in this case the intel value to the bad guys. In fact I"m sure SOFREP is near the top of their bookmarks - (which is why all you sons of bitches on the other side reading SOFREP should expect to never know whether we're spoon feeding you or not.) Just messin with heads here, just in case, cough, cough.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @RedWanderer  @mswimsfla  My gut is telling me the same thing, that this is probably just the beginning of a new campaign that AQ just announced not too long ago. To paraphrase AQ "We will start a new public campaign...", so this could be the start of this. But you are very correct Red, that we have told the world, "you can do what you want, we might complain about it, but that's about all." Damn sad days we live in.

mswimsfla
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 @RedWanderer  @mswimsfla  @AUNITEDPEOPLE 

 

 @JackMurphyRGR  Especially when Jack's buddies over at Fox News put the following on the front page of their website..."“If we ever got seriously hit (by terrorists), there is no doubt in my mind the guard force here would not be able to handle it, and mass casualties and mayhem would ensue,” one guard wrote in late November. Workers reportedly claimed that guards were rarely allowed to practice with their own weapons on the firing range, and that vehicles entering the compound were often not properly inspected for explosives."

 

Do they think the US is the only entity that uses open-source intelligence?  

RedWanderer
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@mswimsfla @AUNITEDPEOPLE Oh, I agree wholeheartedly, mswim. In fact my gut would say there's a good chance an affiliation is there because as far as I'm concerned, we've basically laid down and told AQ to roll right over us. When I wrote "this doesn't appear to be AQ," that's because I have to keep pulling back my inclination to lean toward it indeed being AQ related. I've posted all over the web that Algeria was just the beginning because of the weakness we've telegraphed, so I'm somewhat over-correcting on that bias. Plus I threw in the caveat "appear." My real gut says we should be ready for a string of things to happen.

mswimsfla
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 @RedWanderer  @AUNITEDPEOPLE 

 

The truth of the matter is that we can't rule out any associations at this point. Just because they don't have AQ tattoo'd on their chest, or sewn onto the back of their cuts doesn't mean their not associated with them. A prime example of this relationship is the cartels and AQ being affiliates with one another.

RedWanderer
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@AUNITEDPEOPLE @mswimsfla. This doesn't appear to be AQ related. However, I do believe the whole Northern Africa and Middle East powder keg is about to blow sky high. We have no strategy....only tactical fixes. I don't know if it will be weeks or months, but there's no doubt in my mind there's a heavy resurgence in AQ-related forces who have not only been resurging, but are emboldened by our reaction to things. But even more emboldened by our paper tiger strategy.

RedWanderer
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@AUNITEDPEOPLE @mswimsfla. Latest info, which could even change as well: The state-run Anadolu Agency identified the bomber by his first name and initial – Ecevit S. It said the 40-year-old man was a member of the outlawed Revolutionary People's Liberation Party-Front, or DHKP-C, which has claimed responsibility for assassinations and bombings since the 1970s.

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @mswimsfla Sadly, very true! Propaganda is just that, propaganda!

 

Thus my initial post about the security issue concerns at the Kabul compound. Just the fact that 'they' reported that there might be security issues at this compound could embolden AQ or the Tali to move on it. Thus I am curious what the SOFREP team has to say.

mswimsfla
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 @AUNITEDPEOPLE T-4. According to official reports, the suicide bomber was one of two dead, with the other being a security officer. Initials assessments from the government is that it was a left wing radical outlaw group, but I am interested to see how that changes based on later assessments. I'm sure they have a reason to suspect this particular group, but Benghazi is a prime example of how the reasoning and responsibility of a particular party can change based on the unfolding of open source intel. We'll find out soon enough if these events are related, and who is responsible. Just don't expect it to happen due to MSM. It will be from sites like this and others.<Shrugs> We'll see. 

AUNITEDPEOPLE
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 @mswimsfla Yeah, I did see that. Troubling times indeed! Fox is reporting that the Turkish Gov believes it to be a Marxist national organization and and not Islamic or Kurdish, but who knows right now. AQ did say that they were going to start another 'public' campaign against us, so this could be the first shot.

 

Also not sure of who's running security for that post, nor the layout of the compound. But, from what I can see in the photo's, it appears the entrance to the building right on the side walk, with no walls, etc. Hard to stop someone from just walking up and/or driving up and going BOOM in a situation like that.

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