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Home » Black Ops & Intel » Three U.S. Special Operations Soldiers Die in Mali

Three U.S. Special Operations Soldiers Die in Mali

by Iassen Donov · April 25, 2012 · Posted In: Black Ops & Intel, Coalition SOF, SOF News, Special Operations, USASOC
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Last Friday (April 20th), driving through the streets of Bamako, the capital of Mali, a vehicle with six people was involved in an accident. All six in the vehicle were killed in what is reported to be a “single-car accident”. Officials in Washington have released information that three of the individuals were U.S. soldiers; two assigned to SOCOM and the third assigned to INSCOM (U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command). What stands out about this report to me specifically is the fact that INSCOM (located Fort Belvoir, MD) is also used as the cover organization for personnel assigned to the Intelligence Support Activity. SGM Robert O’Dell of “The Activity” was killed in Mosul, Iraq in 2004; the Army officially listed him as a soldier under INSCOM.

 

There is little info on the other three killed in the car and the first press release listed them as civilians. I came across a separate article (http://english.cri.cn/6966/2012/04/21/2561s694669.htm) from a local news source that says the vehicle plunged off Martyrs Bridge just South of downtown Bamako and the three other occupants were Moroccans. Still waiting to verify this, it could take a while considering the nature of the business.

Martyrs Bridge

You can find the original story here: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04/20/3-us-military-personnel-killed-in-mali-crash/

U.S. personnel have been operating in full force in Northern Africa in what is officially dubbed as Operation Enduring Freedom – Trans Sahara since 2007. Currently, we have over 1,300 U.S. personnel operating throughout ten African nations, with a heavy emphasis on Mali, Chad, Algeria, and Mauritania. The purpose of our mission there is to cooperate with the local governments in combating Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (off-shoot of AQ) through training, advising, and intelligence sharing.

Another interesting fact is that U.S. operations in Mali have been suspended since March 21st, 2012 when Mali troops overthrew the Malian president in a violent coup. The soldiers were displeased on how the administration was handling the Tuareg rebellion which started in January of 2012. An insurgency which can possibly bring down the entire Malian government.

I reached out to the original author, Robert Burns of the Associate Press, to gather more intel on what happened and will update this article accordingly once I hear from him. At this time, I have yet to find information on the names of the deceased individuals but may these warriors rest in peace.

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AdrianGalindez
AdrianGalindez 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Ft. Belvoir is in Virigina for the record

 

Jim_Bodor
Jim_Bodor 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Interesting article, any more updates?

AnonSoldier
AnonSoldier 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Jim_Bodor

Here is a half-assed article about the incident written in the Washington Post earlier this month (July 2012).  Let me warn you in advance, this guy couldn't get much information during his research, so much of the information is either made up or unverified.  Not everything is a conspiracy people....

 

Mysterious fatal crash offers rare look at U.S. commando presence in Mali by Craig Whitlock-

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mysterious-fatal-crash-provides-rare-glimpse-of-us-commandos-in-mali/2012/07/08/gJQAGO71WW_story.html

ScoutsOut
ScoutsOut 5pts

I still have not seen any press release on the three who died.  Nothing on the DOD's page or USASOC. 

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator 5pts

 @ScoutsOut From what I understand the Army changed the listing for the INSCOM KIA the very next day after this article was published to being listed as a Civil Affairs casualty.

writer_reader
writer_reader 5pts

Thank you for this article Iassen Donov. Is there an update on the names of the three who died or possible obituary listings? I know one of the men, Trevor and hope that his family and his girlfriend in Oregon find peace. This single car accident is a mystery and I certainly wish there was more disclosure. So many secret operations going on in the world but when soldiers die don't we as citizens have a right to know more? Thanks for shedding light on this newsworthy story, Iassen. Please update us if you're able.

Nhedmondson
Nhedmondson 5pts

 @writer_reader are those personal details the best things to be posting online?

moonzuk
moonzuk 5pts

Are those special force fellows have no souls or their own minds? Why would everyone follow grand BS brainwash and "help" to destroy someone else's lives? Are they doing anything in regards of development of their very own intellectual level at least slightly above "one-arm" push-ups and shooting practice? Why in the Hell someone followed to Libia or Mali now?Are they totally squared with NWO crap in their heads?

Tango9
Tango9 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @moonzuk glad I'm not the one who "approved' this one unless it was just for  entertainment value, and this thread isn't given to entertainment.

Tango9
Tango9 5pts

 @moonzuk wow. 

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @moonzuk Uh, what?!

jrexilius
jrexilius 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Damn.. my condolences to their families.   RIP brothers.

CQB0311
CQB0311 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Here's a video I found that helps explain INSCOM a little more.  If this is not appropriate for this thread, please feel free to delete.  S/F

http://www.inscom.army.mil/This%20is%20INSCOM%20II.wmv

SD4Fam
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They are in fact deceased. One of the soldiers was the spouse of a very dear friend. And yes we are all questioning what really happened as well. A one car "accident" by someone who has never had so much as a speeding ticket and has been in the military for over 10 years seems a little odd. Pray for his widow.

JackMurphyRGR
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 @SD4Fam I hope the family gets some closure on this issue sometime soon, we're all sorry for their loss. 

LCpl X
LCpl X 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Lassen,

 

I've also read MICECP used in place of "the Activity", know the difference here? If you don't know that's fine, if you do know and can't say, that's fine too. Just curious.

 

Good insider news article. Thanks. Only on SOFREP.

Iassen Donov
Iassen Donov 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @LCpl X I've never seen that used in place, from what I understand MICECP is a program for civilians, not military personnel. INSCOM has control of many counter intelligence organizations in the Army, not just SOF organizations.

 

 

pitt03
pitt03 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

MICECP = Civilians.  MIECP = Non Civ.

Gengiskhan6
Gengiskhan6 5pts

I just find strange the affermative: "officials in Washington have realeased information that ..." ... how come that we get realease of informations ? Wasn't this a classified operation ?

 

I guess the white devils ( ;) ) where there for saving the muslim most ancient mosque from the hands of rebels and fired up latest coup armed forces.

 

A bridge is a point in which people usually are very aware of the situation when driving and very good killing spot.

I guess the van fell into the waters ... or something. Was some sort of counter of operation by someone ?

Cool stories ... very J.Bourne stuff at my eye.

 

It might be also like this. The soldiers might have been held captive by the moroccans, they managed to escape thanks to a fight into the car, or sniper shot (difficult to believe this last), and of course they got into the water flux ... and I believe they might have survived ... and they are back into the people flow now. I don't know how tall is the bridge but there are ferry sailing in so water is deep enough.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyrs_Bridge_%28Bamako%29

 

There is another bridghe just 500 meters upstream says wikipedia.

Anyway I don't know what these guys were doing there. They might got caputred as often happens.

 

I know people there and actually the situation is very very turbolent at the moment. So if they were there in the zone, they were definitely not doing Sightseeing or disneylanding ...

AF138
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@Gengiskhan6 Please stop.

Ben K
Ben K 5pts

 @AF138  There is one legitimate point there - China has many interests in Africa, but mainly because of resources and crap and they get contracts for infrastructure and mining the old fashioned way - networking and friendship ties.  Soft power, if you want.  A Chinese Cultural Center in every major city.  There's one here in Port Louis where my uncle is quite a big stakeholder.  One day I may petition them to let me conduct a Falun Gong seminar or something just for giggles.

AF138
AF138 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Gengiskhan6 Oy Vey.  I think the translation software you are trying to use is failing you.  You can have this argument, only because it would exhaust my mind to have to tackle this with a fine-toothed comb.  You-1, Me-0.

Gengiskhan6
Gengiskhan6 5pts

 @AF138   Ok so you say what is respectful and what is not ?

Man please respect other people respect freedom of speech.

What should I say if I was a related to the family of these 3 guys in trouble there and sombody before even it was officialized the fact that there has been losses start their fucking R.I.P clichè sayings and postings.

Isn't that unrespectful ? You don't know me you don't know my sensibilty, my educations. shut your mouth if you have nothing to say.if you have to start ranting do it at your crib not with me.

Best.

AF138
AF138 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Ben K It was more a request to stop because he was calling this a "cool story", and linking it to a ficticous character. Guys are out there putting their lives on the line for US interests and uneducated folks like this guy are speculating and jerking off over some Bourne Identity fantasy. Really lame, IMHO.

Gengiskhan6
Gengiskhan6 5pts

btw ... China has its interest in Africa ... who knows who is fighting in the areas actually and why.

We know this for good: if there are soldiers and dead people there is a (white) war going on there.

BrandonWebb
BrandonWebb moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

Great write up. A hell of a lot better read than the current Dancing w/the stars report.....FYI USA Today's most popular article. Yikes...

Gengiskhan6
Gengiskhan6 5pts

 @BrandonWebb and also way better then the prospeorous (god bless them) colombian ladies - US SF guys stories ... let them have fun. Stupid media gossippers.

AceP
AceP 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

 @BrandonWebb Just another reason why we all come to SOFREP for the real news. When Fox runs a story about scientists "discovering" the true cause of brain freezes and CNN more concerned about the latest reality star in rehab I tend to lose faith in mainstream media.

BrandonWebb
BrandonWebb moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @AceP well said.

jrexilius
jrexilius 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SleazyWeazel I might get popcorn and finally enjoy the show.

SleazyWeazel
SleazyWeazel 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @BrandonWebb  @AceP 

Now if the whole cast of 'Dancing with the Stars' went dancing in a minefield and it made the headlines...........I MIGHT pay attention. :)

Nhedmondson
Nhedmondson 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Thanks indeed, Iassen.  And I noticed this article seemed to disappear for a while this morning?

 

Gengiskhan6
Gengiskhan6 5pts

 @Nhedmondson eheheh interesting edits ...

Nhedmondson
Nhedmondson 5pts

 @Gengiskhan6 ?

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Nhedmondson  @Gengiskhan6 Uh, I don't think there have been any edits.  However, our IT guru cleaned the post up a little bit for accessability as he sometimes does for us knuckledraggers!

Chris Martin
Chris Martin 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Nhedmondson Hmmm... I guess I might be more surprised that it came back than if it did disappear at some point. Let's just hope your book vanishes from shelves in a less mysterious manner. ;)

Nhedmondson
Nhedmondson 5pts

 @The Nature Roy This guy! ^

Chris Martin
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Very interesting. Nice work Iassen.

Old PH2
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Iassen I have been following this closely.  Do you personally see a connection between the Tuareg and AQIM, or is this just blow back from Libya and the subsequent weapons availability?  

Ben K
Ben K 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old PH2 The Tuareg insurgency is flaring up now as a result of Libya blowback and Malian intel dropping the ball in a really big way, I'd wager, but the Tuaregs and AQIM will generally use each other when convenient.  I remember reading that the Tuaregs control certain smuggling corridors that AQIM would like to use, and that occasionally they do.

moonzuk
moonzuk 5pts

 @Ben K

 

"The Tuareg and Colonel Gaddafi have a long history. In the early 1970s, Gaddafi created his Islamic Legion. This was supposed to be an Islamic military force that would fight for a unified Islamic state in north Africa. Many Tuareg joined up, lured then too by the promise of cash salaries at a time when the Sahel-Sahara zone was experiencing a terrible drought. The Legion ended up fighting in places like Chad, Sudan and Lebanon but in the late 1980s it was disbanded. Many Tuareg stayed in Libya and joined the country's armed forces".

 

 

Iassen Donov
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I personally do not believe that the Tuareg and AQIM are closely cooperating. But there are always connections. Everybody is connected somewhere.. Tuaregs with AQ, Albanian mafiosos with AQ, Chechnyans with Tuaregs. Trust me there is always some connection. Rarely substantial. If the Tuareg feel threatened by the Malian government, they have a right as human beings to do something about it. This has been going on since the early 1900s.

 

AQIM in my opinion is Al Qaeda in name only, not in goal. The organization's goal is to overthrow the Algerian government and put in place an Islamic society. From what I understand they have no ambitions to mess with the "Great Satan". Sure they have made threats against Western targets, but they are focusing on their main purpose in life first and foremost.

JackMurphyRGR
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If you look at the history of GIA, I don't think the Algerians are going to put up with any of that AQ type bullshit anytime soon.

OPR
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 @Old PH2 I know for sure that tons of Libyan arms have made it to militants and criminals in the Sinai, especially since it came right around the time security collapsed in Egypt.

SleazyWeazel
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 @OPR I've had the same concern since those 10,000 or so MANPADS had gone missing from various weapons depots since the fall of the Libya.  I read that roughly half had been rounded-up and subsequently destroyed, but still leaves a helluva' lot of launchers still floating in the wind.  It only takes one of those start a panic attack across the globe if an airliner takes it in the ass.

Old PH2
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 @AceP  @JackMurphyRGR  @SleazyWeazel I only wonder if the battery has some small proprietary circuitry attached that makes this impossible.  Maybe just wishful thinking. 

AceP
AceP 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old PH2  @JackMurphyRGR  @SleazyWeazel Would it be that hard to RE a battery pack? Especially if they had an original, albeit dead, model. They guts of it can't be much more complicated than a MBITR or SINCGARS battery, just a different form factor, power rating, and discharge rate. I could see that happening.

OPR
OPR 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Old PH2 @SleazyWeazel It's not worth it for Israel to attack Egypt and re-occupy the Sinai. Not even a small part of it. Not unless Egypt literally launches an attack on Israel or looks like it's about to attack Israel.

 

I mean think about it. Israel would have to hold the Sinai for several years. It's economy would probably take a severe plunge on news that it has gone to war with Egypt. Israel would have to burn up its state budget sustaining a long-term high-intensity war with Egypt and a long-term low-intensity war with the Bedouins, causing further massive damage to Israel's economy. This not even taking into account the massive political costs of such an invasion.

 

It would have no benefits whatsoever. I don't think any Israeli leader would do it. Air/artillery strikes on the border are a different story however.

 

On the subject of MANPADS from Libya, Egyptian security forces have already captured dozens of them over the past year or so. So yeah, scary shit.

Old PH2
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 @JackMurphyRGR  @SleazyWeazel  So control the batteries and control the MANPADS.  Unless the Iranians are retro-engineering these battery packs as well as a RQ-170.

 

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2012/0424/Iran-s-cyber-prowess-Could-it-really-have-cracked-drone-codes

KineticFury
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 @SleazyWeazel  @OPR I thought it was a bit more than 10K - from what I heard mostly the SA-24 'grinch'.

 

JackMurphyRGR
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 @Old PH2  @SleazyWeazel It's only a couple years.  I've messed with a control unit from a SA-7 that we found in Iraq.  I'd be amazed if those things functioned after sitting in a warehouse for 10+ years.  I'm actually more interested to see if the CIA procured any of those weapons and in which conflicts they turn up in the future....

Old PH2
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 @SleazyWeazel Can anyone from the Stinger Teams remember the life expectancy of  a Stinger battery pack?  I'm just curious about the Russian made MANPADS, I really have no info on them at all.  My take on all of this is that the life of these devices must be a serious obstacle to their prolonged storage then subsequent use.

Old PH2
Old PH2 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OPR Ouch!  But that really doesn't surprise me.  The tunnels to Gaza are probably unnecessary now.  How long will it be before Israel retakes Sinai to control the flow of weapons? 

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