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Home » Admin » Women’s Self Defense Weekly: Less-Than-Lethal Defense Options

Women’s Self Defense Weekly: Less-Than-Lethal Defense Options

by Brandon Webb · May 17, 2012 · Posted In: Admin, Special Operations
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I wanted to take the time to cover some basic less-than-lethal options. Because let’s face it, no girl wants to get their Rick Owens boots or Jimmy Choo’s shoes all messy with shooting somebody for real. Right? Chances are you don’t have the time to train properly with a firearm anyway.  And for practical reasons, range time and great instruction are both hard to come by. CAUTION: Beware of your local Rex-Kwon-Do version of a firearms instructor. You’d be surprised at how many self-proclaimed experts there are in the world, well maybe not, you ladies on here are pretty sharp.

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So here are my favorite less than lethal options:

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1. Surefire or Princeton Tech 500 lumen flashlight. This is a great option because it flash blinds any would-be stalker and if needed the light can be used to pummel the face (it will break a nose very easily, a good option fyi). AND you can take this anywhere, including on your next flight. This is why I rank it number 1 of 3.

 

 

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2.  Next up is Jet powered “canned heat” AKA pepper spray. Here’s a link to my favorite. You can sometimes slip this past security (I did last month at San Diego International on United) but the down side is that it’s tough to pack this bad boy around with you. It makes an excellent addition to your key chain, is not expensive, and the jet spray helps mitigate the back blast that could be encountered with down wind deployment. FYI-you don’t want to shoot this into the wind when it’s blowing more than 5mph or you’re toast!

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3. Taser

The Taser is a great home defense option and it relatively easy to use. CAUTION: You still need to use this thing in practice and get some training before having to use it in an emergency. Too often people overlook this very simple and obvious issue.  Just having it doesn’t make you good using it.

Enjoy and please ask me and the guys questions about any self-defense related issues.  We love passing our Spec Ops knowledge your way and I especially enjoy putting creeps out of business.

Brandon

 

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Brandon Webb

Brandon Webb is a former U.S. Navy SEAL with combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the Middle East. His last tour in the SEAL Teams was as the Course Manager for the US Navy SEAL Sniper program, arguably one of the most difficult sniper courses in the world. He was formerly a contributing editor for Military.com, and currently the Editor-in-Chief of SOFREP.com. Brandon is regularly featured in the media as a subject matter expert on military affairs. An avid writer, his last two books (The Red Circle, & Benghazi: The Definitive Report) both hit the New York Times best seller list, and his writing has been featured in print, and digital media worldwide. You can follow him on Twitter @BrandontWebb

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PatrickM
PatrickM 5pts

Lever Action you hit it on the head. An example is yesterday at work a woman and her 5 year old son are on a bus.The kid accidentally kicks a woman. The woman begins to curse at the child and mother. The Mother tells the woman not to curse at her child ,when the mom and her 5 year old are immediately attacked by the woman and her fricking boyfriend. no warning nothing but immediate attack.

This has been a norm lately in the city I work in. The story is always the same from the victim "the attack came out of nowhere"Except when you here the whole story you hear multiple warning signs that an attack was at least impending.

I believe the most important lesson that people need to learn is you need to be ready to go from 0mph to 110mph in a blink of an eye,because the bad guy is always ready and willing to hurt you.

LeverAction
LeverAction 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Something no one has mentioned - It's Not That People Don't Know What To Do. It's They Don't Know When To Cross That Line in The Mind and Act. The decision to act is a tough one for standard-issue people. Bad men have no such restraint. Good people do. You have to get over that. Train just as hard WHEN TO ACT as you train for what to do. 

PatrickM
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I have  learned the hard way that Muscle Memory is for real.I like to punch the heavy bag ,but I tape my hands and wear gloves,to protect my hands (I have screws in both wrists) .On the street no gloves, no tape ,so punching is not a real good option for me,elbow is better.Yet recently while working had patient attack  me and Police  Officer with round house punch.Muscle memory in action what did i do ,right cross & hurt hand,, Duh. On the other hand when I workout I do a circuit that ends with multiple knee strikes to heavy bag.Same scenario when the drugged up patient went for the police officers handgun ,,muscle memory kicked in 3 well aimed ,effective knee strikes & end of story. So my pea brain has decided to work on elbow strikes and knee strikes and only use punching when clear shot available . Also i have a terrible habit of putting my hands in my pockets, I know one of these days it may cost me,need someone to slap me in the side of the head every time I put my hands in my pocket while at work and at the scene of an incident. Also i tend to look in peoples eyes and forget the HANDS..real stupid

ArcticWarrior
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 @PatrickM

 Just saw a vid at work picked up by the quickie mart CCTV. Patrol pulls up to a car at some kind of mini mart disturbance. Tells guy #1 put hands on the hood, he does so, turns to talk to guy #2, at this point guy #1 pulls a handgun and places it on the front tire under the fender. A passerby watching tells Patrol Officer what he just saw. Guy #1 was like a magician, slight of hand was great, when they played it back in slow mo you could see it, in real time it was just a blur. The hands, its in the hands.

LeverAction
LeverAction 5pts

 @ArcticWarrior  @PatrickM In God I trust. Everybody else keep your hand where I can see them. 

Old PH2
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Ideally I would like to train for multiple attackers, very tough to do.  I'm nearly to the point that we may enter a local dojo just to get the experience.  I figure train for the worst and anything less will be easier.

ArcticWarrior
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Tasers need to be treated just like a sidearm. Do not shoot people for shits and giggles or practice. Its a dangerous tool, "Less Lethal" is a misnomer. To get my X26 I volunteered to be lit up in a controlled environment with medical staff present, it hurts, a lot( It was a LE Program TI put on). People have had bones break from muscle contractions as well as people who may have had a bad blood pump and not known it have vapor locked. Treat it with the same respect as a handgun.

For those wanting to practice buy the practice cartridges.

 

Remember dont treat it like a toy.

 

http://store.taser.com/taser0174-c20153-2-pack-training-cartridges-p112.aspx

HugeFan
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@ArcticWarrior I could not agree more and for the exact same reasons that you have mentioned. I would also add that the same process that one goes through before using their sidearm/CC(verbal warning etc.) should be used as well. Tell someone that you are ready to turn 'em all KFC while in your ready/guard position. If they continue, shock therapy will rehabilitate that ass!

katgirl231
katgirl231 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @HugeFan  @ArcticWarrior I totally agree (and was joking about videoing the poor sucker - I mean volunteer).  Although the energy storage capacitors and conversion to high voltage is optimized for voluntary and painful muscle contractions while minimizing the chance of causing one of the heart's nodes not to react - still the heart is a big muscle.  My instructor is a big guy and he said that if they gutted down and braced for the older models, you could sort of ride it out.  He said the new ones you can't - his quote was "Think of the most pain you can imagine and it's beyond that."  Oww.  That is definitely nothing to toy with - besides the fact that those needles aren't 1/4MOA projectiles and one can go into an eye (how would you like pulsed 15kV or whatever it is now screaming down your optic nerve?).  I'd handle them like a firearm or one of my nuclear-lasers!p.s. does anyone remember Dr. Lizardo plugging himself into a wall socket to wake up?  "Laugh while you can monkey boy."

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior 5pts

 @katgirl231  @HugeFan

 Kat,

You would be surprised how many people think a Taser is like a toy and turn them on and play with them. People hear less then lethal and think it is something to play with at a party.

When I got zapped the sensation was odd. My brain was still on in a fuzzy way but I could feel every muscle contract as tight as possible to the point it hurt. I guess like when you hear people say they woke up during surgery, the brain was on but couldnt do anything about it.

The Taser is an effective tool when used right, its not fool proof and failure could happen ( Im not sure if the C2 has the Contact backup for in close ) buy they should be treated like a sidearm.

As a side, the bad people, not your pros just your avg punk, always tell me big dude not a deterrent, sometimes a group of people not a deterrent, the crackle of a ECD a deterrent, the best deterrent, a big suspicious dog. People are just inherently afraid of a big angry dog and will look for easier prey. Same with house alarms, they generally dont see it as much of a deterrent, kind of like car alarms, big GSD frothing at the mouth when they get to your window, time to move to easier ground.

ArcticWarrior
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 @HugeFan  @ArcticWarrior

 Good point on the verbal.

FormerSFMedic
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Obviously, if anyone has read my previous comments on the tactical flashlight, you guys know I'm a HUGE proponent of this tool. I can't stress enough how effective the tactical flashlight is! It's the kind of Personal Protection tool that will get you out of a situation before it even starts. I do recommend finding someone (which may be hard) that will train you on defensive flashlight methodology but even without training it's an easy concept to grasp. I will say too that 500 lumens is a bit much. There are certainly situations that call for that amount of light but around 120 to 200 lumens is more ideal and practical for personal protection. As far as the pepper spray or OC spray. I DO NOT suggest the use of the key chain models or the one pictured above. Try getting that thing deployed under stress and you'll know why I'm not a fan. When your body is under an "alarm response" getting to a small device on a swinging key chain while also getting around safety mechanisms just to access a tiny button is going to near impossible. I suggest the Kimber Guardian Angel Pepper Blaster II. It's easy to use and it fires via a small pyrotechnic charge. It has some pretty decent range (30' I think) and because it fires the charge at high speed the "blowback" is not much of an issue if at all. It carries easily in a pocket or purse and there are practice blasters available as well. I carry one in the car as well as on my person when I can't carry a gun somewhere. Two shots per blaster is enough to create some distance and get the hell outa there. The TASER I have mixed feelings about. It's a fantastic tool no doubt about it and the C3 is super easy to use and effective. However, users should understand how to use it and practice "drawing" it as much as possible. There are holsters available for it which make it easy to get into action. The other problem besides deploying it is that people need to understand that TASER's don't always work. The last thing you want is for your attacker to continue coming at you while you're still attached to him! Fire your charge, DROP the damn thing and run! One of the cool things about the C3 is that if you file a police report and turn it into the company, they will provide you with a new one. One other thing I'm not sure about is the serial numbered "confetti" pieces. When you fire the C3 it let's loose hundreds of serial numbered "confetti" like pieces everywhere. It's supposed to be for proving what happened in case you have to drop the unit and run (which is what you SHOULD do). With the serial numbers all over the place you can go back to the scene and show proof that you had to defend yourself. That way you can file a police report, get a replacement unit, and maybe even ID the guy/gal that tried to attack you by finding the pieces on his/her clothing or in his car or on his property. I'm just not sure about leaving evidence of myself all over the place.

LeverAction
LeverAction 5pts

 @FormerSFMedic I Hear and Obey. Thank you.  

katgirl231
katgirl231 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @FormerSFMedic I cannot tell you how much I appreciate these articles, who writes them and people with experience in-the-suck adding their knowledge!  One of the worst things about tae-kwon-dodo armed or unarmed is that most of the time you can never have complete confidence in it.  I used to get an occasional recurring nightmare where some huge maniac is coming after me, I draw, do everything right then after the pistol locks back after the second mag of nuclear-tipped-planet-busters, the guy gets up slowly and says, "uhhhhh now ya really got me mad."  Eeeek!  After your first article, I have a SureFire with me all the time.  Another thing about a Taser is that, at least for going out, women are reluctant to carry anything extra since purses are already heavy, but I've been told that the new ones are painful beyond belief.  I'll have to check out the pink Sabre especially for my dog walks at the park.  I know the bigger ones are one of the few which use a mix of Capsaicin/CS which is comforting to know.  Wow 500 lumens - I like it!  One thing I picked up from my low-light carbine class was if you have an illuminator brighter than say the X300, if you sweep a light colored wall or mirror - you get the full effect.  Thanks again - I am totally grateful for this series!

katgirl231
katgirl231 5pts

 @FormerSFMedic This is a very true story.  Happened to one of my best friends.  He had asked me to find a very compact OC spray for him, so I got him one which was a good strong one and it was a capped white cylinder about 1/2cm x 4cm long with a bug spray type button under the cap.  One night he was going out on one of his rare dates so just as she was supposed to drop by he decided to give his mouth just another Bianca spray.  Yep.  I saw him after his date and his face was still kinda red and puffy :D

LeverAction
LeverAction 5pts

 @katgirl231  @FormerSFMedic Damn

LauraWalkerKC
LauraWalkerKC moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Bears repeating on the Taser: Practice practice practice.  You probably won't get a second shot.

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LauraWalkerKC
LauraWalkerKC moderator 5pts

 @ACS Practice targets are cheap.   Unless you have really, really, REALLY good friends who will let you practice on them =P

Ashter
Ashter 5pts

 @LauraWalkerKC Thanks for the link.

katgirl231
katgirl231 5pts

 @ACS  @LauraWalkerKC haha - if any of your friends are incurably depressed....

 

katgirl231
katgirl231 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ACS  @LauraWalkerKC haha ACS - you kill me!  Let me know and I'll come with my video camera :D

 

LauraWalkerKC
LauraWalkerKC moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Ashter You can get them online all over http://www.impactguns.com/taser-practice-targets-80002.aspx

 

Can't believe no one said "Don't tase me, Bro" yet   =P

Ashter
Ashter 5pts

 @LauraWalkerKC Where do you get target practices at?  I didn't know they had those around....I guess there is always the hubby when he gets out of line. :)

Old PH2
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I've been outed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsxVqyP25fA&feature=related

PatrickM
PatrickM 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I am a huge fan of the Surefire E2D LED carry one at work and have used it successfully against drunken fools.However I was recently denied access to a sports venue when they found it in my pocket,I had to return to my auto and leave it there. So I recently purchased one of those so called  tactical pens. I bought the UZI model nice hard pen you could do some damage with it.For kicks I slammed it into a 2x4 and it stuck..If you are using pepper spray but  sudecon wipes,they work great if sprayed. The inner city street rats have been spraying people prior to robbing them and we use the wipes and yes clear instantly.

jeffreycarr
jeffreycarr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @PatrickM I'm with you on both items. I take the Surefire E2D and Benchmade's Tactical Pen (hardshell aluminum with a graphite tip that'll break glass) with me on every flight. Never once had a problem with either in passing through TSA and that's flying twice a month, every month for the past year.

katgirl231
katgirl231 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @jeffreycarr now see?  This is also the kind of experience I'm talking about which makes me feel better!

katgirl231
katgirl231 5pts

 @jeffreycarr you Could carefully change the "B" to a "W?" ;P

 

jeffreycarr
jeffreycarr 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @katgirl231 On the other hand, I keep them in my carry-on for the X-ray inspection. I don't lay them out on a tray, tempting a TSA officer to say WTF when he sees "BENCHMADE" on the clip of the pen. 

HugeFan
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The flashlight sounds like a great idea for my wife. Besides it always good to have a light.

katgirl231
katgirl231 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @HugeFan soo true about a light.  Like the first time you try to check your oil dip-stick on a bright sunny day or lose your keys in your purse.  @Old PH2 back in the old days when you took a class for CN sprays I was the one who volunteered to get it in the face.  I even thought I had a few good seconds to lurch forward to grab someone if I were some big mean dude.  I wouldn't volunteer for CS or OC and especially NOT for the newer Tasers!  When I carry any of that stuff my mental image of myself is that of a Skunk.  Phoom and beat-feet!

HugeFan
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@katgirl231 @Old PH2 I just can't decide between Elzetta or Surefire. I know that Surefire is solid but I have seen the Elzetta guys do pretty awesome shit with their lights. I'll see if I can't find the link... On the note: I am in no way affiliated with Elzetta and would like to share the demo to see if it's legit.

katgirl231
katgirl231 5pts

 @HugeFan If you suck, then I do to - I am terrible at texting and stuff!  I will do that, as you know - I love gadgets.  While on duty, my current instructor (who doesn't need another impact weapon) keeps a spare X300 in his pocket for those times you want to illuminate something without a muzzle pointing in the same direction or if his Glock mounted one goes south.  I thought that was a good idea so my carbine and one pistol new enough to have a rail both have X300s, but I keep my old 6P in my purse or pocket :)  I keep wishing I had the money and credentials to get a Glare Mout wheee.

HugeFan
HugeFan 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Okay so I suck. For some reason I cannot get my iPhone to copy the link but I will tell you that if you go to YouTube and type "Elzetta" you'll come across their torture test videos. I think that it is a remarkable piece of bloody kit!

Old PH2
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We decided against the pepper spray for my wife because of Blowback.  Being a Security guard and qualifying to carry OS I know what it's like to get a face full.  The C2 taser in pink rides along with an ASP and a 6p Surefire where ever my wife goes.  

 

Even with this arsenal we concentrate on training, regular sparring with my wife and girls.  Believe me my little 5yr old will hurt you!!!

 

i guess I must retire my Star Spangled sweat pants and Do Rag, bummer.   

HugeFan
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@Old PH2 Dude, I knew that was you! :-P

Old PH2
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 @HugeFan  @Old Actually most of my family think I look a lot like this fellow:

http://www.kingdomofleo.com/knightlydelights/2008/images/20081222elliot01.jpg

katgirl231
katgirl231 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @HugeFan  @katgirl231  @Old haha it's only one of my kits.  You should see my Zombie Pandemic collection :D

Old PH2
Old PH2 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @HugeFan  @Old  @Old  I've always enjoyed his Westerns.  Honestly One of my Cousins could be Mr. Elliot's stand in.  I only resemble him like 75%.

HugeFan
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@katgirl231 @Old PH2 Hey Kat, those links to the pics of your kit were not able to process on my iPhone. When I get off work I'll see if I can access them from my computer and shoot that e-mail over to you for those ballistics... Thanks again Boss!

HugeFan
HugeFan 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Old PH2 @Old Sam Elliot kicks ass dude! He has been in three of my top twenty films. Big Lebowski Tombstone We Were Soldiers The closest thing to Lee Marvin we have now a days... Sorry I'm way off topic at this point, apologies.

katgirl231
katgirl231 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Old PH2  @HugeFan go you! not bad.

 

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