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Home » Op-Ed » A Navy SEAL Sniper is Laid to Rest: Dark Times & The Light of Texas

A Navy SEAL Sniper is Laid to Rest: Dark Times & The Light of Texas

by Randy Kelley · February 21, 2013 · Posted In: Op-Ed
So a Navy SEAL Sniper is Laid to Rest. Why all the Hype?
In an almost cliché image, the rain is coming down on the stoic faces of proud Texans who’ve come out in support of a local hero named Chris Kyle.  They wave their hands and flags as the funeral procession passes by, complete with hundreds of Patriot Guard motorcycle riders, and scores of family, friends and teammates of the fallen soldier.

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I’m writing this piece because it’s a long trip from Midlothian to Austin, where we will bury Chris in a little while, and I’ve realized that something needs to be said that hasn’t yet.

The grey sky today is the perfect metaphor for our collective mood in the country right now. The news headlines and our own financial concerns are hitting us every day with sour news. The dark skies are seen as a passing storm by some, or the start of “The Perfect Storm” by others. No matter the forecast, it’s cloudy and raining today. We can all feel it.

Enter into this scenario even more bad news, namely the untimely death of Navy SEAL Sniper, Chris Kyle. Most people will take this information, feel a tinge of sadness, comment, “What a tragedy,” and then move on with their lives, which is understandable.  Others, however, will stop and take notice. Some may even learn something about this man- and capture a glimmer of hope.

Someone wise once said that our reality is defined by what we continuously focus on.  When we are constantly bombarded with bad news, low bank accounts, mishaps, and doom, our spirits yearn for balance through something good or healthy. There are many of ways to find that good, but often it’s something transitory and self-gratifying. How much better if we can find that good medicine for our spirit through another mechanism.

Heroes. We all have them.

These are the guys and gals that we want to be like. As we mature, we realize that these honorable individuals are human, and so we begin to identify the specific qualities that we admire. These are the human traits that we identify with and want to incorporate into, well, ourselves. To those rugged individualists or rebels who say BS about having heroes, I challenge you to recall your favorite stories and movies and tell me you didn’t pick up something from them.  You see, we all have heroes.

Sometimes, we can find those qualities in real, living people.  If you’ve had the opportunity to read Chris Kyle’s book, American Sniper, you might have discovered some of these estimable traits that resonated with you. Young men might read about the warfare and adventures Chris experienced which could ignite that warrior spirit in them.  If you look closely, though, you’ll find much, much more to admire. Something to which all of us can aspire.

Chris became a living legend because he had 255 confirmed kills during his four tours in Iraq, while being shot twice and blown up four times. Even before he released his book, this caught the attention of both US warriors and the enemy combatants, and this is where we come to the crux of his whole story, compelling us to take notice. At this point in Chris’ career, he had some hard decisions to make, and we know that men are known by their decisions. The first question was whether he should leave the brotherhood of special men and become a full-time father, or stay in the Navy and build his career on his past accomplishments. For many committed and gifted warriors, this is a very tough decision, but Chris chose to get out because of battle-weariness, as well as to strengthen his family.  It was a good choice for all.

The next decision was another complex one. Should he write about the battles he had endured in order to share them with the world, and if so, why?  Well, he did write the book as we know now, doing something that most people couldn’t or wouldn’t consider.  He dedicated and then donated all the profits from the book to the families of his two friends, Marc Lee and Ryan Job, both killed in Iraq.  Marc’s death was especially hard on Chris, eventually pushing him to “adopt” Marc’s mother and donate the profits to the family. What is amazing about this decision is that Chris had no real income now because he was not eligible to retire from the Navy. He used his personal notoriety, wrote the book and then gave to the families of his slain teammates. This act of selfless love and brotherhood gives us a beautiful example of the deeper side of a true warrior.

There are always those who hate war. Many of them take that hate and transfer that hate to the warrior. These folks don’t like any talk or glorification of war; but it may be surprising to know that those who eschew killing in war the most are the warriors. It is they who have been trained for this, knowing it must be done. To those who’ve taken the path of hating the warrior, I must ask you to look closer. Chris is an amazing example of a warrior who lived the patriotism we speak of, the self-discipline of a saint, and of selfless love we can only hope for. He was still human, of course, and not at all perfect. Remember, it’s the qualities we admire that make them heroes to us.

As we reached the Texas State Cemetery, the rain finally abated and the sun shown down on us as “Taps” played, jets flew overhead, and the frogmen pounded their Tridents into the coffin. We laid our brother to rest and set ourselves to understand the meaning of the event in which we just took part. You see, Chris had been out of the Navy for 3 years, and yet 150 SEALs, active and retired, flew here to honor this legend. This is unprecedented in this small community of SEALs.  Amazingly, most of the flights were donated by others and all the hotel rooms were paid for by Texas Law Enforcement. The outpouring of love, money, and respect shocked every one of us.  Texas and the SOF community overwhelmed the family, friends, and teammates of Chris Kyle. We began to see a silver lining in those clouds.

In dark times, the lights we can see seem so much brighter. Although Chris was a light for all of us to model, the compassionate outpouring by Texans and others gave many of us a new hope-the hope that the light in all of us can chase away this darkness that pervades our country.  There are still men of action, of integrity, of selfless love, and dedication to God, family, and country.  Not only that, but there are so many more in this country willing to step up in support of these men and women, attempt to fill their shoes and be that light for the rest of the world.

Randy Kelley is former Navy SEAL Sniper, also serving in Ramadi but without quite the excitement of Chris Kyle’s adventures.  He currently lives in San Diego and runs a Preparedness Program called Ready 5 (www.ready-five.com).

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EileenHuber
EileenHuber 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Found this article so uplifting.  I respect and am in awe of the Seals because I've never known anyone like them.  All the reading I've done makes me feel like now I do.  They are the best of the best.  The brotherhood is so strong.  Wish I knew that in my life.  The photo of all the Seals kneeling around Chris's coffin speaks volumes.  God bless them all.  BTW, I still think of Chris Kyle daily too.  Bless and pray for Taya and the children.  It's not an easy path they're on right now, but, I know they'll be okay because they have the support of the Seals!

Kendoist4162
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Why does this still hurt so much? I had never met Chris, only read his book. I have never met anyone who knew Chris, only read their words. Yet, I think of Chris daily, and am awed each day. When I read articles such as from Mrs. Lee, I find myself crying like a baby. I cry for Taya and the children. I cry for the brothers that Chris has now joined and those he has left behind. I cry for the State of Texas and for America. We have lost so, so much.... There truly are heroes. They give of themselves fully in many ways, but what they really give to us is ......Hope

LouCollins
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 @Kendoist4162 I don't know--but wish I did. Don't feel alone in this--you are not. Even if you didn't know him, neither did I. Saw him on RedJacket--he had this great "little boy" about him, in his smile, his comfort with himself. You could tell in those few minutes that he was just a great guy, would have loved for him to be my brother, or my son. It's crazy...I wish I could explain it. I can't. But I do know it will hurt less eventually. Check out YouTube video of Van Wars with him. Realize these guys live life to the fullest, and truly enjoy it. Take comfort that their brothers in arms truly care for each other, and for the families left behind. From your note, there is no doubt you'll never forget him--and that is a tremendous honor for him and his family/friends. You're 100% right--THEY GIVE US  HOPE! Not the fake hope we've heard about for too long. Real hope of good people doing impossible work.

Hope this helps you.

CaliGirlinTX
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Just got this from MoveAmericaForward.org: 

 

 Debbie Remembers Chris Kyle: American Sniper

 

 Chris Kyle 

April 8, 1974 - Feb 2, 2013

 

Chris Kyle, "The Legend" as his teammates nicknamed him, was tragically taken from us on Feb 2, 2013. Chris was the author of American Sniper and was the most lethal sniper in US Military History. As a Navy SEAL Chris was awarded numerous medals including two Silver Stars, and five Bronze Stars with Valor. I was blessed to not only know the warrior Chris was but to experience the complete package of a man balanced with selfless love, compassion and generosity.

 

Chris is survived by his wife and two children who he deeply loved and cherished.

 

Along with Chris at the Texas shooting range on February 2, 2013, close friend Chad Littlefield was also murdered and leaves behind a wife and a daughter.

 

Chris and I began to communicate after the death of my son Marc Alan Lee. I would receive emails and phone calls while Chris was still deployed. I realized that these men who served with Marc were his "brothers" and I adopted/inherited many new "sons." Chris took that role seriously and we became very close, we really were family. So when I received the call that Chris had been killed I was devastated and in shock. I caught the next flight to Texas to be with his family. I have dedicated my life since Marc's death to the troops and especially the families of the fallen. I have been there for too many families who have lost a loved one in combat or related to combat, but this was different. Chris was as close to a son as you could be without birthing them or raising them. Grief was all too familiar and I did not like this. 

 

Within hours we began to see an amazing out pouring from the patriots in Texas who were deeply moved and had been impacted by Chris. It is still so hard to accept that Chris is no longer with us. I was so blessed to have known Chris and be embraced by him as his "Momma Lee." 

 

We had about 12,000 to 15,000 attend the services at Cowboy Stadium. The following day the funeral procession traveled 200 miles to bury Chris in Austin at Texas Memorial Cemetery.

 

 

 

We gathered at the Stadium at Midlothian High and were greeted by the Patriot Guard Riders. These riders are life savers, if it wouldn't have been for them at Marc's Memorial Service I would have been arrested for the confrontation that might have ensued when the Westboro wacko's told me "I had failed my son and I sent him to hell" and that "He choose an occupation of murder." Because they attended and sheltered me I didn't see or hear the vile protestor's. They ride for every fallen hero to honor and defend them. One of Marc and Chris' Officers and I got off the bus in the pouring rain to present Challenge Coins to their President and shake the hands of each of those who rode. The funeral processions were led by about 80 riders and then were joined in Waco by about 800 more.

 

As we left Midlothian people were gathered on the overpasses to honor Chris and show their support. I was amazed as we continued to drive 5 miles away, and yet still people were standing on every single overpass, 25 miles and still every single overpass had people waving flags, saluting, some with signs "RIP Chris Kyle," "Thanks you Chris, you will not be forgotten." This was done in the pouring rain and many of them where there hours before when our advanced team and color guard drove by. Even though I was exhausted and had slept very little the past week, I knew I had to stay awake to see how many miles we would travel before there was an empty overpass. 150 miles.....still every overpass. Many had fire trucks and emergency vehicles, and it wasn't just the overpass, the sides of the freeway had people standing on the shoulder in front of their business, school children stood with hands over their hearts, some people knelt as we went by, many had tears streaming down their cheeks.

 

As we passed through many of the major cities people were on all three levels of freeways as they laced over the interstate. I remember my heart sinking a little in disappointment as we neared an overpass and no one was there, then as we got closer I saw it was under construction and you couldn't get up there. We traveled 200 miles and EVERY overpass had people paying their respects and honoring Chris. I had never seen anything like this in my life.

 

Chris hated the spotlight, he was uncomfortable doing book signings, taking pictures, and visiting with people. That wasn't why he wrote American Sniper, he wrote it to honor Marc, Ryan and his teammates. He wanted to give the average American a glimpse into what our troops and their families endure and sacrifice. He gave away all of the proceeds to the book. He wrote the book to challenge people that when they come home our responsibility is "to serve those who served us." 

 

After Chris and I had been at book signings or in a group of people where he couldn't walk five feet without someone stopping him for a hand shake or autograph, he would say "I hate this part, I am not a people person". Yet if you stopped him even if there was a line a mile long behind you, he would have made you feel that you were the only one and it was sincere. As we drove that 200 miles and I saw all of those people I couldn't help but think, yes son, you are a people person. People all over the world love you.

 

Chris is buried at an amazing, historic cemetery, and the private burial ceremony attended by family, close friends and teammates will forever be etched in my heart. The cemetery was surrounded three deep on the outside perimeter by the PGR riders and their flags along with who knows how many other patriots.

 

I stood directly across from the SEALS in formation. My oldest son was on my right and Medal of Honor recipient Mike Thornton on my left, and Chris' casket between the SEALS and I. In front of the casket set Chris family. It was all I could do to not break down when the folded flag was given to Taya, and Chris Mother.

 

Following SEAL tradition, at the end of Chris'  funeral each SEAL removed his Trident and solemnly  walked to the casket, and then placed his Trident on Chris' casket and with one slam of the fist pounded it in to the casket. It left me speechless and in tears, as it has each time I have witnessed  these brave warriors saying goodbye to one their brothers. Each SEAL then returned to formation and bagpipers played  "Amazing Grace." The SEALs all then gathered around the casket and knelt. If they could reach the casket they place their hand on it, if not they placed their hand on the shoulder of the SEAL in front of them and bowed their heads.

 

 

 

When the bagpipers stopped in deep voices of the Brotherhood, they yelled "HOOYAH, CHRIS KYLE!"

 

Forever Grateful,

Debbie Lee

LauraKinCA
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 @CaliGirlinTX

 Thanks for finding and posting that. Very touching.

LouCollins
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 @CaliGirlinTX Moved beyond words--Debbie Lee--God bless her. Thank you CaliGirlinTX for posting this.

JoshDollar
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 @LouCollins  @CaliGirlinTX The account of the funeral procession was the most astounding, gut wrenching thing I have encountered. As a former member of Patriot Guard Riders I could feel myself right there. God Bless Chris Kyle and the Patriot Guard Riders.

CaliGirlinTX
CaliGirlinTX 5pts

Sorry about the horrible spacing.  It did that when I posted.  

hjw1dr
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Found this tribute: Another version to Honor Chris Kyle, Devil of Ramadi - ver 2.

For you viewing pleasure. :)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2RX-GUGkik

LouCollins
LouCollins 5pts

 @hjw1dr Thank you for posting this. Still so hard to comprehend this :(

JHR
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A Tribute To Chris Kyle. An American/Texas Hero, Forever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLvSuAznnks

 

LouCollins
LouCollins 5pts

 @JHR Beautiful. Thank you for doing this.

Txazz
Txazz 5pts

Still Reeling From the Death of Chris Kyle, a SEAL Brother By BRANDON WEBB    Feb 27, 2013   New York Times/War

It’s a strange place I find myself these days, in my late 30s, and faced with the reality of friends, SEAL brothers, lost and gone from my life. The most recent include my friend Chris Kyle, who was killed last month, and Glen Doherty, who died six months earlier. I find myself often rereading saved e-mails from the guys because they give me comfort and an occasion for a much-needed laugh or cry, and I’m not afraid to admit the latter.

http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/27/still-reeling-from-the-death-of-chris-kyle-a-seal-brother/

greekchorus
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Every time I lose one of my beautiful warriors, it staggers me. My country is diminished yet that much more, and makes me prize the remainder and newest, all that much more. God enjoys the company and now perfected service of Chris and Chad in paradise. We do not deserve their celestial over-watch, and yet, we have it. Let us remember them in every act of honor and respect we extend more appreciatively toward their brethren still among us. Thank you beloved warriors, for everything. Thank you.

madmattva
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@BrandonTWebb possibly one of the best articles I have read. He put my feelings to paper. Thank God for Chris!

ClownPatrol
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I served with pride but I did not do 1/10th. of what Chief Kyle did and I think the pride I feel now has diminished substantially.  What in the hell does a fallen-warrior (such as Chris) have to do for his country, family and fellow man to get a respectable eulogy from our public?  I feel like there is such a tiny and overworked fraternity of people quietly doing the work of what is easily the most epic and important combat in world history and there is ample proof that we are now witnessing the "Greatest Generation" right here, right now.   We  Americans don't even know it...there is no rationing, air raid sirens or bomb shelters.  Does this help explain how can we possibly keep forgetting that we are at war? I can't imagine how you people  in uniform keep doing it for us.  We have reached an alarming level of ingratitude and isolation.  That is out of my system...thank you for the beautiful eulogy Mr. Kelly.

MaryInEvergreen
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I'm playing catch up, so just got to this article.  What a beautiful, moving picture for a powerful, moving piece of writing.  Thank you, Randy, for sharing your thoughts and experiences from that day.  As one who stopped and took notice, I find that I am the richer for learning about Chris' life and the example he set.  RIP CK.

osc2
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That was one of the Best write ups I have ever read!!!! Randy, you appear to be a "light" as with Chris and I'm sure there are a lot more out there. My deepest condolences to You and all you know that had to go through this tragedy. 

David_98020
David_98020 5pts

@BrandonTWebb Every time I read about Chris Kyle it reaffirms to me what a phenomenal person he was both on and off the battlefield.

Txazz
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Notice the cowboy hat amongst the SEALs and former SEALs?  Another cowboy in the bunch.

vscotttheauthor
vscotttheauthor 5pts

@joshschafer6 Thanks for the RT! I really liked his perspective...

joshschafer6
joshschafer6 5pts

@vscotttheauthor we definitely need to take better are of our vets and improve mental healthcare in this country.

vscotttheauthor
vscotttheauthor 5pts

@joshschafer6 I am completely in accord with you re our veterans! #SOV

joshschafer6
joshschafer6 5pts

@vscotttheauthor I read Chris Kyle's book, I spent a brief time in the army, and I appreciate the view

vscotttheauthor
vscotttheauthor 5pts

@joshschafer6 Yes, I had read Mr. Kyle's book as well, was very impressed by him *and* his wife. The families make the sacrifices too.

ColonelProp
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@PowerfulPeace @sofrep Powerful writing, something we can all glean wisdom from

hjw1dr
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 I found this article very moving. Thank you for letting us in on your thoughts during that very difficult day. 

Julesy
Julesy 5pts

Don't think this has been shared yet: http://chriskylememorialtrust.org/

You can donate to both the Kyle and Littlefield families. This was sent via Chris's FB page so I'm assuming it's legit.

 

floridave
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In the Saturday, 2/23/2013 issue of the Palm Beach Post here in Florida, they published a letter to the editor titled "Why was sniper hailed as a hero?" The tone of the letter was very negative, and ended with the thought, "Mr. Kyle leaves behind a wife and two children. How many widows and orphans has he left behind in Iraq?" After reading the stories of several of the SOF in their books, I realize the answer to the question, but think an answer from someone who has lived this life would be much more effective. I believe you can see the letter online, but if not, please let me know where I can send a scan of the letter, and instructions for sending a letter to the editor.

JHR
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 @floridave Hi Dave, normally I would say "no response" is the best response to something like this and perhaps a bigger-front page article on Chris Kyle as a Hero in a more read newspaper in Florida would be a better tact. However, The Palm Beach Post is read by 750,000 folks and is the 7th largest newspaper in Florida, Plus, Cox (who owns it) has been leaning towards bringing in conservative voices as well as those to the left. In fact, they've launched a project dedicated soley to a non-partisan viewpoint in another area. I suggest getting the opinion of the SOFREP team. Awesome choice. Will look forward to how this turns out. RIP CK, A Texan American  Hero For Eternity.

 

yamiseymour
yamiseymour 5pts

@BrandonTWebb thanks for sharing!

EileenKelleyForster
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Randy, that picture...gave me "chicken skin" and a lump in my throat! So moving! Love the title you chose for your story, also-it's very fitting for such a time as this. Chris was very deserving of such a meaningful departing tribute; but the welcome he received in Heaven was probably even more spectacular. He is STILL, and always will be a shining light.

SEAN SPOONTS
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This is really a good piece of writing Randy. You've done just service to Chief Kyle here. The Romans used to say that a man never really died while his memory lived in the hearts of others. Judging from the comments I've read here tonight you've added nicely to the immortality to your friend and fellow SEAL.

DaveHenning
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 Maybe I missed something, but should there not be a representative from our government at Chief Kyle's funeral?  Or better said- in past tense- shouldn't have have been someone there, at Chief Kyle's funeral, representing the Pentagon, or the Executive branch?  Michelle Obama was at some little girl's funeral in Chicago!

osc2
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 @DaveHenning

 My own opinion, the scum up there didn't deserve to be at his funeral! Would it have been "politically correct"? Yes. But warriors don't want nor seek exposure like they want to give. If they aren't going to get votes, make money or look "good", they aren't going to do a damn thing. Going to one of the Most Feared Snipers in History's funeral, oh NO, guns, violence, war,,,, I can't go there nor praise HIm!!!!!

 

Ok, got a hold of myself, end of Rant...

MR151
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 @DaveHenning

 I think it would've been reasonable for someone from the DoD to have been there, Navy Sec'y or the like. Maybe Adm McRaven although the latter might've been still in-theater(the 'stan). I don't know.

 

As for Michelle Obama, I've got no beef with her going to that little girl's funeral. The little girl in question had sang at the inauguration and she was later killed upon returning home in what was apparently a random drive-by shooting.  

DaveHenning
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 @MR151  @DaveHenning Sir, all I'm saying is that SOMEONE from the admin's should have been at Chief Kyle's memorial and/or funeral.  If some little girl is worth a visit from the 1st Lady, Chief Kyle should have received the same respect.

 

I spent most of my career in the Intelligence Community working with JSOC.  Maybe I'm just a little prejudiced towards those at the tip of the spear.  And no, I have NO respect for the person at 1600 Penn.

 

SEAN SPOONTS
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@DaveHenning @MR151 You don't know that someone wasn't. Just because it wasn't reported on doesn't mean somebody didn't reach out. And if the VP, Pres or first lady had gone it would have been a mess. The security for anyone at that level involves an insane amount of planning and logistical support. If I was the Kyle family and some bigwig from Washington wanted to come down I would have said; "Thanks for the offer but no thanks." And if the Pres or VP had gone would be people just like you saying that they were exploiting Kyle's death for political reasons. And there would be people asking why didn't someone go to Littlefields funeral as well. Didn't his death matter? They ran that same BS on Bush. If he doesn't go to New Orleans after Katrina he doesn't care. If he goes, he's exploiting the tragedy for political purposes. As far as some people were concerned Bush was "The Man who could do no right." There are lots of funerals for heroes that the President or other members of his administration will not attend You can't go to one without explaining why you don't go to all of them. I'm no fan of this President but I think your criticism of him in this case is unfair. There isn't racism or anything else evil or nefarious going on here. Just let it slide.

Kim l
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@StormR @DaveHenning @stickit2em @MR151 I agree color does not make you worth more or less. It is just something we put on people . Thank you for the reply

StormR
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 @Recon6  Sorry, 6.  I was responding to Kim's question. I'll stay on topic from here on.

Recon6
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@StormR @Kim l @DaveHenning @stickit2em @MR151 Stormy, OT-LT !....6

Recon6
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@StormR @Kim l @DaveHenning @stickit2em @MR151 Stormy, me Too!! And the thread is for CK.not political or racial comments....6

StormR
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 @Kim l  @StormR  @DaveHenning  @stickit2em  @MR151 Dave's  point was that Michelle Obama went to the child's funeral because the child was black and no one went to Chris' funeral because he was white.  It was only Dave I was responding too, and I should have removed other people's names from my reply.  There was also an implication that as Chris was a Hero, his funeral was more important that the child's.  I am outraged that anti-gun people used Chris' death to make political statements.  I am outraged that anti-gun people used the deaths of the children at Sandy Hook to make political statements (including the State of the Union address where I saw all those politicians wearing green ribbons).  And I was outraged that someone used the murder of that black child to make a political statement about the President.  There are just some things that should be sacred ground - and the murders of children and Heroes are sacred ground to me.

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@southernbelle @Kim l @StormR @DaveHenning @stickit2em @MR151 Belle, the 'silence' is the disturbing part for sure, not sure if representation would have been wanted, but at Least a mention. I rather think the O's look upon our Heroes with disdain, especially someone as Awesome as CK, imo....6

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 @Kim l  @StormR  @DaveHenning  @stickit2em  @MR151 I have no prob with the first lady going to a funeral for the Chicago girl, but I still can't believe the silence from the WH in regard to CK. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but they've said nada, right? How many service people did he save by providing over-watch or going on the streets with the  Marines and training them for room clearance?

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@StormR @DaveHenning @stickit2em @MR151 let me agree using a child to make a point is Wrong. I just did not see that in there comments. I do see that is what you saw and was a bit surprised I don't know you that we'll but was surprised at your statement that's all.

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@Jaycel Adkins @stickit2em @DaveHenning I do not see where I threw any insults ? I asked a question.

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 @Recon6  @DaveHenning  @StormR  @stickit2em  @MR151  Morning 6.  I think everyone on SOFREP agrees with his position about government representation at the memorial, including myself. 

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@stickit2em @StormR @DaveHenning @MR151 Hey folks, anyone thought that Perhaps the Kyle family did Not want a rep from the Gov't present??? I mean I most def would Not want anything to do with them if it were my family greiving...don't like the O's and would want them a million miles from my family, imo....6

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@stickit2em @StormR @DaveHenning @MR151 Hey Stick!! Cool it with that kind of shit most riki tik, that's no way to talk, especially on the internet. Polite discourse please or the elves will be here quick to splash that type comm....6

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@DaveHenning @stickit2em @StormR @MR151 Dave several of us are in agreement with your pos on this, me for one. We do not play the race card on REP as we are many different colors and and ideals. Yep, Texas did America Proud, but we didn't expect any less they always do....6

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@StormR @DaveHenning @stickit2em @MR151 Stormy, That pretty much sums it up in a neat, tidy package...undoubtedly the O's should have had a representative at CK's Memorial, imo, and I personally have a thought on the MOH ceremony but we can talk about that privately, sad that the CIC didn't feel compelled to have someone present for CK, doesn't surprise me tho....6

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@Jaycel Adkins @Kim l @stickit2em @DaveHenning Excellent advice JA, let's All take a deep breath and have a civil discussion...we are similar in so many things otherwise we wouldn't be at REP...6

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@JHR @stickit2em @StormR @DaveHenning @MR151 Hi there J, we can both handle this....6

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@StormR @DaveHenning @stickit2em @MR151 Stormy, yes you Did vote for Romney!! You took the available Intel and made an informed decision and I for one was/am extremely Proud of You for doing so as you are one of our resident Libs and most definitely one of the good ones, lol....6

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@DaveHenning @StormR @stickit2em @MR151 Dave, wth?? you trolling here?? Apparently as you are insulting from very good females that are an integral part of SOFREP. Fortunately, we look carefully at ppl and attempt to get to know them prior to splash. You may find more ppl are inclined to agree with your pos should you use a little more tact? You know sugar and flies etc. Seriously bro, dial it back a little and let's have a civil discourse....6

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 @DaveHenning  @stickit2em  @MR151  Dave, first of all, neither JHR or I are 'real men".  We're woman.  In fact, I'm a grandmother and an Indian.  I don't use 'Native American' very often because I grew up being called an Indian and I guess I'm just too old to be changing labels.  Free speech means you can say whatever you want, whenever you want.  Free speech doesn't mean that I have to agree with it.  No stickers on my car - I voted for Romney.  And my car is 10 years old and a gas guzzler.  Nope, I don't fit into your box.

DaveHenning
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 @StormR  @stickit2em  @MR151 Oh.. isn't that "native american"?  and you and your pitiful band of anti- bill of rights "trolls" can hate all you want.  it's called free speech.  i found it disturbing that much was made of a girl killed and a hero was shunned by our gov't.  i can almost see the obama/ biden stickers on your prius.  you obviously want tyranny. free speech isn't your thing. mr jhr... real men don't make idle threats on the internet.  

StormR
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 @JHR  @stickit2em  @DaveHenning  @MR151  Let it go, JHR....I am.  This is about Chris and he was first and foremost a father.  No one would have to explain this to him, and once again, that shows the measure of the man he was.

JHR
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 @stickit2em  @StormR  @DaveHenning  @MR151

 Watch your language to Storm or You will have me on Your Ass. I smell a troll.

StormR
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 @DaveHenning  @stickit2em  @MR151  And Dave, Ambassador Stevens wasn't completey white.  He was an enrolled member of an Indian Tribe, and we deeply mourn his passing and those who died that night.

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 @Kim l      @stickit2em  @DaveHenning  Hey, this is a tribute post to Chris Kyle, drop the insults. One well liked poster and one very respected contributor to SOFREP got 30 day bans for insults. I assume since you are posting here, your fond of your surroundings, act like it. 

StormR
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 @DaveHenning  @stickit2em  @MR151  Let me lay it out clearly about exactly where I stand, so when you throw the race card at me, you are wasting your time.  1) Ms. Obama knew the child before she was murdered. 2)  The girl was close to in age to Mrs. Obama's daughter.  3) The child was murdered a few blocks from Mrs. Obama's home.  4)  The child was murdered in a park that Mrs. Obama's children played in before moving to the White House.  Why in the world do you think it's a horrible disgraceful thing that she went to the funeral of the child?   I wish Pres. Obama had said something publicly about the loss of Chris Kyle, because he was an American Hero.  I consider him a Hero.  I would also like you to remember that the day of Chris' memorial, President Obama was presenting the Medal of Honor to a white solider.  You want to play the color card, far be it from me to stop you.  But it says more about you than it does him.   And Kim, if you can't see how appalling it is that people are using a dead black child in a rant about a President, then nothing I can say will explain it.  I think they have a legitimate complaint that he didn't speak out and honor Chris before or after the ceremony.  I think they have a legitimate complaint that it appears there was no representative from the government there - although we don't know that for a fact.  But it is absolutely classless to use a dead child to do it.  

DaveHenning
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 @stickit2em  @StormR  @MR151 the administration made their point: black girl is shot down in a "gun free zone" in chicago and they send the first lady.  four white men- representing our country- in a desert country are killed, the ambassador is sodomized, killed and dragged through the streets (history lesson: WW1 started bc an ambassador was killed- and it IS an act of war) two navy seals, killed.  nary a word.  a hero is killed, and no word from this socialist nimrod running the show in dc.  us texans responded... all along the interstate all the way from dallas to austin, paying our respects.  the admin didn't care about the whites who were killed... funny how THEY see color.  maybe you see color, @stormr... i just don't understand why our heroes don't get the respect due... but then again, they WERE white.

Kim l
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@StormR @DaveHenning @stickit2em @MR151 storm why would you say something like that? I thought better of you. Sounds like the news twisting the facts .

StormR
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 @DaveHenning  @stickit2em  @MR151 Guess you guys are right.  A dead child doesn't matter, particularly if she's black.  Got it.

DaveHenning
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 @stickit2em  @StormR  @MR151 I don't like either of them myself, but this was a very high-profile guy (at least here in Texas!) and as his sad story hit the news, much like that little girl in Chi-town, at least if I were prez I would have sent- at the very least- someone from JSOC, the Pentagon, SOMEONE to send official condolences, representing our nation.  But- if you're willing to almost look the other way when an ambassador is sodomized, killed and dragged thru the filthy streets of a foreign country, and two SEALs are killed as well, I suppose we shouldn't be too surprised.  Then again, all these brave souls WERE white.  As the kids say these days, "jus' sayin'"...

StormR
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 @DaveHenning  @MR151 The child was personally known to Mrs. Obama and was shot to death just a few blocks from Mrs. Obama's home in Chicago.  Of course, she went.   I don't care if you respect the President, but little respect for a dead child might be in order.   It was not publicly announced who or who was not at the memorial.  It appeared to me that the family wished to keep it about Chris and did an amazing job of doing just that.  

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