Thae Yong Ho, a North Korean diplomat stationed in London who recently defected to South Korea, told reporters from CNN that Kim Jong Un won’t be parted with his nuclear weapons program, but has expressed an interest in meeting with new American president, Donald Trump.

“As long as Kim Jong Un is in power, there’ll be no chance for the world to improve the human rights issue” or cancel “the nuclear program,” he said.

He also explained that American-led sanctions are working in the reclusive Asian country, and that they have had a clear effect on domestic policy and the perceptions of Kim Jong Un among his people, and even senior leaders within his staff.  According to Yong Ho, the financial repercussions of Kim’s policies are having a “psychological effect on North Korean people and high-ranking officials,” and that he anticipates that we’ll begin to see even more members of Kim’s elite flee the nation out of fear for their own safety due to Kim’s continued issues establishing legitimacy as a leader in the minds of his people.

“If Kim Jong Un decides to kill someone, if he thinks that he is a threat or he scared him, he just wants to get rid of him, that is the present reality of North Korea,” he said.