During an interview with ABC News, President Trump once again reiterated his support for “torture” against terrorists, specifically enhanced interrogation methods such as waterboarding. Trump said:

I want to keep our country safe…When they’re shoot…When they’re chopping off the heads of our people and other people. When they’re chopping off the heads of people because they happen to be a Christian in the Middle East, when ISIS is doing things that nobody has ever heard of since medieval times, would I feel strongly about waterboarding? As far as I’m concerned, we have to fight fire with fire.”

Before allowing reporters everywhere to recover from their collective gasps of disbelief, he continued:

I will rely on Pompeo and Mattis and my group. And if they don’t want to do, that’s fine. If they do wanna do, then I will work toward that end. I want to do everything within the bounds of what you’re allowed to do legally,”

Trump has widely said this during the course of his campaign, so it should come to no surprise that he reiterated his stance during the interview. However, it is common for elected leaders to say one thing during the campaign but “moderate” after getting into office. And this comes in stark contrast with the views of his nominees. Secretary of Defense Mattis said back in November,

I’ve always found, give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and I do better with that than I do with torture.”

During his confirmation hearing to become CIA director, Pompeo faced questions regarding his willingness to re-institute enhanced interrogation techniques. He replied,

Absolutely not. Moreover, I can’t imagine I would be asked that by the president-elect. There is no doubt in my mind about the limitations placed not only on the DOD but on the intelligence agency, and I’ll always comply with the law.”