The bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building on April 19th, 1995 in Oklahoma City stands as the most deadly act of domestic terrorism, killing 169 people and injuring nearly 700. Although perpetrator of the attacks Timothy McVeigh would take sole credit for the atrocity on that day, there have always been theories involving a nefarious “John Doe #2” at the scene that went dismissed. Our writer Joseph LaFave got to know Special Agent Kevin Waters as a college professor of his, but years prior to his teaching career Waters was there on that infamous day. Waters details an account of a man he saw on the scene days before with McVeigh, that he believes was someone other than the individual labeled John Doe #2. LaFave details the story of Waters in his exclusive piece for Newsrep, and LaFave now joins us on Episode 443 to relay this account that has gone unwritten until now.

As someone who has always had a fascination with the topic seeing documentaries ranging from the conspiracy-ridden “Oklahoma City, What Really Happened?” (often uploaded by various users online) to the more mainstream account of the event “Oklahoma City” available on Netflix, as well as reading books like “American Terrorist” by Lou Michel and Dan Herbeck, it is fascinating hearing unheard information 24 years after the fact. I highly suggest reading Joseph’s piece. He conducted a thought-provoking interview, and I hope that you learn something from this episode.