Joe Goldberg, former CIA agent joins the program for a great conversation about his time working in the CIA.  Joe talks about starting off as a “video librarian” in the 80’s, how he gathered open sourced information before the internet took off, how the 24 hour news cycle has changed the world we live in today.  He explains how his job was to create messages to tell the truth in their own way, how they managed to attract viewers to their messages, using music to help spread awareness, how they tried to prevent blowback against America when creating these videos, his thoughts on the 2016 election regarding Russia’s involvement, the naivety of the American public in regards to influence outside of America, and how to create a headline that “sticks.”  Joe also shares why he decided to write historical fiction novels.  Be sure to read Joe’s novels wherever books are sold.

Jack & Dennis open the show with a reader email regarding the bad wrap some units get because of their alleged actions.  Jack shares his thoughts on why the SEALs specifically seem to receive the majority of this backlash and why he feels that is.  Jack’s daughter joins the guys in studio to explain the toy she received for a successful school year.  Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcast, let us know what you think of the show and purchase Jack’s book “Murphy’s Law” where you can find wherever books are sold.