Russian propagandist and political scientist Alexei Fenenko said in a live television broadcast that the invasion of Ukraine was only a “rehearsal” to prepare for a wider conflict with countries inside the NATO alliance.

“For us, the war in Ukraine is a rehearsal for a possible bigger conflict in the future,” Fenenko said during a segment with state-run television channel Russia One.

Fenenko is an associate professor at the Moscow State University’s world politics department and a researcher at the Institute of International Security Studies.

“And that is why we’ll test and go up against NATO weapons and will see on the battlefield how much stronger our weapons really are compared to theirs.”

“This may be a learning experience for our future conflicts,” Fenenko added on the talk show 60 Minutes before host Olga Skabeyeva interrupted him, saying, “it’s a scary experiment.”